# Crystalbeastdeck09

## aka Michael

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## Hello

It's Marcus if you wanna find older discussions check the arcive!

Marcus Villanova 22:09, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Drabo will put all his enemies behind bars. You, Villanova, are no friend of Drabo. HAIL DOORIAN! Drabo13 09:35, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like how you act like your royality and say all hail Doorian and act like your all bad ass and stuff. But the real thing is... your not. Oh and what's up with you being muslim and racist i don't understand? Marcus Villanova 22:14, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Marcus Villanova 20:38, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

## Oi Villi

Oi Villi its um uh you know Joseph Yorn this is obviously my page um yupp so i was just wondering how are you? Orderofnovgorod 00:41, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

LASUPAC is a good idea mate Orderofnovgorod 13:09, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

yea i wnted to make it for a long time i was busy making the logo tho.Marcus Villanova 16:32, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

## Campagin Poster

Can you please make a campaign poster for me? Pierlot McCrooke 18:05, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Check the LLCP page "Elcect M.V. and P.C." but do you want a Solo poster also what kind?Marcus Villanova 21:21, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

## User page

Your user page states that it's possible to steal the money belonging to the somebody you know the name of. Curious... And very interesting indeed! If that was real world, then I would be mister X for you from now on. But hey! That's not how it works, actually. :-) SjorskingmaWikistad 18:57, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know that!Marcus Villanova 21:04, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

## Gone

You maye think we are gone... but you couldn't be more off! Hessel Doorian has entered the political arene, so the Lovians should prepare themselves for some old-school lynching. We will unleash hell upon leftists, socialists and communists. HELL!!! Not to mention all non-whites and race traitors. Times are going to change, rapidly. We are on the eve of a glorious revolution. I salute you, Drabo13 11:43, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

PS: I am dead serious. We will either succeed, or die trying. Write THAT in your pathetic little newspapers... Drabo13 11:46, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Drabo is hereby blocked (see his talk page). I wish you all not to react to his racist shouts. He does not deserve our attention. Dimitri 15:19, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

## Thanx

Thanx for the support, I know that with the current situation things are getting out of hand, but in essence we aren't that extremist. We only want to defend our cause, and the only way is to campaign, campaign, campaign. It is just sad, that other parties use their posters to spread evil words about us! Jon Johnson 19:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I know i hate people who are so easily affened.Marcus Villanova 19:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
The communism from Yuri and Alyssa is peaceful Pierlot McCrooke 19:39, May 13, 2010 (UTC)\
Agreed! I like that and I like leftism just i perfer -- as you know-- Center Leftism.Marcus Villanova 19:40, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I beg to differ: communis is NEVER peaceful. It has a hidden agenda, trust me. You choose not to see it, and when you will finally realise it, it will already be to late. ArminBlanche 19:41, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I hope you think 'my communism' is as peaceful as theirs (Yuri and Alyssa)?
@Marcus: and infact: we don't want to offend anyone Jon Johnson 19:42, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I know AB your Dooian.Marcus Villanova 19:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Every communism that comes of Yuris party is peaceful Pierlot McCrooke 19:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Thats what i meantMarcus Villanova 19:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

## 1000

today was my 1000th edit!Marcus Villanova 22:46, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Good work :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 06:14, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

## Citizen News VI

 Citizen News VI: May 24, 2010{| style="background-color: #f9f9ff;" News for all citizens: All citizens may vote in the 2010 Mid-term Elections. Please check out this page and cast your votes before the ballots close! We're working on a national anthem. Please check out this page. The People of Lovia have accused Hessel Doorian and the Iron Guard Party of racism and other violations of the Constitution. The full trial can be followed at the Supreme Court House. News for Members of the Congress: In the First Chamber, a group of MOTCs from different parties and ideologies are working on a huge state reform plan. They wish to reform the states drastically to make Lovia more efficient and to bring the people closer to the different levels and branches of government.

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Dimitri 07:30, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

## Sports

Could you do me a favour and write a small piece in your newspaper about the LFF? It is a federation for the sport fencing. You know, with the swords and all! Thanks in advance, BastardRoyale 15:01, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm the un-offical LSCA Commisioner but if you want... I'll make you a deal You broaden the LFF page and make it all offical and stuff and i'll admit it in the LSCA and write an awesome article about it. Deal? Marcus Villanova 21:09, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Deal! Thanks man, your the best. ;-) BastardRoyale 14:23, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

## Idea about the world cup

Hi Marcus,

I saw you've made a lot of sports articles on this site so I thought you might like to help with a project I was thinking about.

I was wondering if Lovia could be involved in the World Cup somehow (obviously, not in the real one because they've already chosen the teams) but maybe we could set up a second World Cup for the 32 teams that didn't quite make it past the qualifiers, and include Lovia as a thirty-second.

The downside would be of course all the teams would be useless but it would still be fun to do.

Interested? Semyon Edikovich 19:27, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Humm sounds interesting as you see i'm the only one who cares about sports around here, but might BRoyal and you also want to help thats fine. Well this project will obviosly take alot of time so i suggest that we start the page soon and make it all nicey-nice. Marcus Villanova 21:12, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'll make a page as soon as I can think of a name for the tournament. Got any ideas? I already made a list of the teams. Semyon Edikovich 08:23, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
FIFA World Tourmament... All I ask for is that San Marino is in the tournament You can pick the rest also I think it should be 16 teams 4 groups of 4. 8 teams in the play offs and so on. Marcus Villanova 13:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should do it exactly like the World Cup, except obviously different teams. So as thirteen teams from Europe qualified we should have thirteen teams as well. Also, not that I mind, but why do you want San Marino? Semyon Edikovich 14:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
San Marino is my favorite country though i live in THE USA i love it beacuse it's the world's oldest republic and is very beautiful... I'm watching the world cup right now Argentina vs. Nigera Argentina is winning... So far i've seen every minuite of the world cup so far. Marcus Villanova 14:15, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I'm only watching England's games, though I really should be preparing for exams. Shall we have it jointly hosted by Lovia and Canada, with San Marino as special guest team? Otherwise we'll find it hard to explain how they qualified. :) Semyon Edikovich 14:18, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
So your from england yea? USA will so lose i mean win? No they'll probaly Draw like 1-1 or 2-2 . I think it should be hosted by Lovia i'll pick a stadia. Marcus Villanova 14:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
The USA probably will win - England always fail. :( Still, I live in hope. By the way I made a map of countries taking part - in purple. Semyon Edikovich 14:28, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I see what these colors mean
Red - Failed to quailfy
Purple - Taking Part
Cool make the page now were all set but what lovia doesn't have a national team... shit. Marcus Villanova 14:38, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
We can just get a few players from these 6 teams. There's more than 23 players, and we can add a few as well. By the way, green countries on the map are the ones in the real WC... not ours. Semyon Edikovich 14:48, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
of course don't you know i'm the head of the LSCA you can make the roster. GTG sorry i'll be on around 6:00 EST but i'll try to catch the soccer match between ENG vs. USA... oh crap i've got a baseball and a rugby match today well i'll see the highlights. Oh i'm only 12 BTW... so yay make the page roster contries and all that well'll start the tourney in July it'll be fun! Marcus Villanova 14:52, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Philip Bradly-Lashawn of the LFF will be among the sponsors of the event, donating \$2,000,000 and buying t-shirts and footballs for the players. BastardRoyale 14:59, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. Semyon Edikovich 15:00, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Its a deal then I love the idea. BastardRoyale 15:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
By the way, I made a page; World Tournament. Semyon Edikovich 15:02, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I noticed: long live the "recent changes" button! I also commented. BastardRoyale 15:04, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

## Picture time

Hey Marcus . You're one of the guys in the 2010 Congress of whom we don't have a (realistic) picture. Perhaps an idea to upload a picture the press and Congress may use? If you do so, don't forget to check your wiki-age Dimitri 07:56, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Humm i'll upload one... but i'll have to change my history... Marcus Villanova 20:30, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

... I'll keep the old history but here's my picture Marcus Villanova 20:52, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

## Tax Room

As our new Chief Fiscal Services, you are asked to help out the Department of Finance in the Tax Room. Thanks. Percival E. Galahad 11:10, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

## vote

Could you please vote for the 6point system, it's standing their but nobody is voting Jon Johnson 22:24, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I voted, my dear John. Ages ago it seems. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:20, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry i didn't see but i'll probaly abstain I don't like it but as a member of PIGER we should of came of of a beter system. Marcus Villanova 23:11, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

## Interview

Could you write an interview with famous fencer Henri Megrii in your newspaper (or another one)? You could make up the entire interview of course! ;-) BastardRoyale 18:46, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sure i'll write it, i've got alot going on now so wait.. Marcus Villanova 20:41, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sure I'll wait! :-) BastardRoyale 10:02, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

## I rewrote your Census Act

As some people wanted your Act to be rewritten I had a go, even tho' I'm not MOTC; have a look in the Second First Chamber. Hope you don't mind! Semyon E. Breyev 20:53, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

You could have re-rote it bur put it on my talk page non-MOTC are not alowwed!!!!! Thanks! Marcus Villanova 20:55, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
In fact every citizen is allowed to propose a law, that includes adaptions to other proposals. You must however be MOTC in order to vote. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 11:36, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Oh right, that makes sense. Semyon E. Breyev 12:35, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Yes Yuri is right but he first sai second chamber so.. thnx anyway! Marcus Villanova 20:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

## Shares

I offered you the shares of LTV Jon Johnson 16:43, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thank YOu!Marcus Villanova 21:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

## How are you working out the match results?

I had an idea about this, but I wanted to see what you were already doing first. Semyon E. Breyev 19:01, July 8, 2010 (UTC) (PS c'mon the Vnuki could have managed more than a draw!)

Using the expansion mode for FIFA 2010 on PS3 Marcus Villanova 19:03, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

come again? Semyon E. Breyev 19:04, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

On FIFA 2010 you can create a team, so i created 12 with all the rosters and stuff. Marcus Villanova 19:12, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh that's cool - I hope it's not biased towards FC Villanova tho' Semyon E. Breyev 19:15, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

No but you can control how good the teams are should i post that FCV is about the third best in the league and Vnuki is 5th. Marcus Villanova 19:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'll post it on the forum! Marcus Villanova 19:30, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

## Team

Could I make one football team that is based in Plains which could participate in the Leagea along with the others? I saw (and liked) your proposal. Dr. Magnus 07:57, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

He made Luca Union yesterday. Today I made Plain Balls United. Dr. Magnus 10:01, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I want to apologize for the current 'troubles' around Portland between me en Sjors. I just want to let you know that this conflict has no political influence what so ever. And maybe I'm a bit of a criticizer in the current times, sorry but I'm really trying to help. I hope we can work together like we could in the very beginning. And I'm looking forward to help working on your Local Politics idea, maybe you or I can work out a sandpit for this. I hope we stay comrades, because I think we need to unite more then ever, one strong voice can really change things around, and the bullying between me and sjors has to end, but I hope you understand my opinion too, I have really a lot to do now, with my 'herexamens', I just can't follow the speed of Sjors and certainly not his enthusiasm. If I may ask you one last question: Take a look at the list of railways, Yuri (and I) saw some problems their, could you check it and give your feedback, it would really help us out, if we gave too little info on the page, feel free to ask more info to either me or Yuri,

{C With kind regards

Jon Jon Johnson 22:46, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sure but this is to anyone who as questions about the Local Political Party thing each Region would have a different name for there political Party. Marcus Villanova 14:31, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking and maybe it's better to work out a local policy than a local political party, since on the local level (meaning cities, towns, hamlets, and even maybe states) the only thing that needs to be done is to 'translate' the laws proposed in the congress into a way of governing this 'local' level. Maybe we can right sort of a officious law (maybe we can work with the title 'groupthink' since it isn't filled in fully) in which all of the leftist parties approve to govern the same on this local level, what do you think? Jon Johnson 06:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

## TV

You really need to do something about this town, it's falling apart. Semyon E. Breyev 15:40, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i know but no one knows i'm the mayor of the town! It was free functioned i got moved there but everyone else has given up on the town. Marcus Villanova 15:46, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should try and combine the two neighborhoods. (btw, maybe you should 'surprise adopt' Ricky Donia-McCrooke ) Semyon E. Breyev 15:58, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea what to neighborhoods your talking about and second if i'm gonna have children they'll be mine!=] Marcus Villanova 17:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, TV and Nicholasville of course. Semyon E. Breyev 18:34, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Well then I have to think about it. but i think that's up to Dimi or Yuri. Marcus Villanova 19:51, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Actually it's up to the involved mayor(s), chairmen and the governor. I'm pretty sure Dimitri is in those functions somewhere. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:34, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should propose a law that makes any citizen of a town or Hamlet any automatic member of that city council, and manditory yearly elections for mayoral spots, AND CAN WE FRECKING HAVE STATE ELECTIONS?!?Marcus Villanova 19:46, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
Which state are you planning to stand in? Semyon E. Breyev 20:12, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
I agree that we really should have state elections but I don't need to say that this is probably the second worst time of the year to organize them (only preceded by Christmas-New Year). Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:34, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
If we would have state elections I would like to participate. Also, could I become a mayor? BastardRoyale 15:39, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
You can only become a mayor of a town that has none or is free functioned and if you live in that place. Marcus Villanova 15:45, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
So which states would you two try to get elected? I personally would go for Seven... Semyon E. Breyev 15:47, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Well i live in Beaverwick, Adoha, and Train Village, so let me see would i want to run against Dimi or Yuri HELL NO i'll take my chances in Sofasi! Marcus Villanova 15:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Could I become the "Emperor of Asian Island"? BastardRoyale 15:53, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
No there's no such thing, what kinda question is that? Marcus Villanova 15:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Lol, you should create that post if/when you become Clymene governor Marcus! Semyon E. Breyev 15:58, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
It would be a honary sorta thing! With no power and no reason but just to be fun with it! Marcus Villanova 16:00, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Oh and a heads up I'll be gone tommorow at NYC seeing buildings seeing Chicago (The Musical) and having fun and maybe two days if i'm going to see my reilatives! Marcus Villanova 16:06, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Have fun seeing buidings then! Semyon E. Breyev 16:17, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Thnx GTG but might go on later! Marcus Villanova 16:26, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

## Rename

I renamed the stadium in Portland, just to make this a bit coherent Jon Johnson 20:35, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

## Vote

Please check out LTC and vote about the logo... Jon Johnson 14:31, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

## Baron Of Donia

Can you please writer a article abou the death of the Baron of Donia in Nova Times? Pierlot McCrooke 13:24, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we need crying women, and women who pull their hair out, like in ancient times :p Jon Johnson 13:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
@Pierlot- Sure, i'll get to it. Marcus Villanova WLP 14:18, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

## Labo(u)r

Can I fully renew the page, update logo's the party is dead, but has some great ideas, it shouldn't reamin a death article, maybe i can create a beautiful page... Jon Johnson 12:56, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I already started you can rewind however, or ask a moderator to do so if you can't Jon Johnson 14:59, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

## feedback

Could you give feedback in my sandpit, on the credit time act Jon THE DUDE Johnson 20:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

kk i'll do it now! Marcus Villanova WLP 20:25, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

this? Jon THE DUDE Johnson 21:15, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

OMG I love it ! THanks this is amazing! Marcus Villanova WLP 21:19, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome Jon THE DUDE Johnson 21:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
I put it on the CT Page! We only need one more act for Jazz Portland to be filled! Was anyone planing to create pages for Blue Smith and the Golden Age Quintet? Marcus Villanova WLP 21:23, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
I'll discuss it with dimi Jon THE DUDE Johnson 05:36, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

## Trial

It has been more then enough of him. Things like this are just not tolerable. Could you please trial him again and block him for a very long time? It is time to end the charade once and for all. Dr. Magnus 19:05, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I will. YOur back now? Please Stay! I'll contact Arthur... Marcus Villanova WLP 19:43, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
I saw the charges. I am sort of occupied at the moment, but if you formalize your charges a bit more, and when I find time, your case might become a trial. A little patience will be necessary - but your goals will be reached if you remain patient, I am sure. --Arthur Jefferson 21:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
As the trial progresses, Marcus, I would be willing to serve as a witness and so could McCrooke and maybe Aesopos. As for your first question: I am not back. I am only here because McCrooke told me I had a message here concerning my castle and so I decided to come here and settle a few issues. Dr. Magnus 08:23, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

### Trial (2)

You have a message from the Supreme Court at User talk:American Eagle. --Arthur Jefferson 14:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

## Chat

Awesome... I want to know if you have a facebook or somthing so we can discuss the trial faster, mabe you can be a witness/Lawyer for me thanks! Marcus Villanova WLP 15:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to talk to me you can do it on IRC here [1]. I am often on there and also Pierlot (under the name of Cavitas). Then we could discuss our strategy on how to make sure Drabo stays away from Lovia forever. Sounds good? Dr. Magnus 17:10, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
how do I use it, I just created an account to how do I contact you, my name is MarcusNova! Marcus Villanova WLP 17:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Cool. I will come online, give me 15 minutes or 30 minutes. ;) Dr. Magnus 17:17, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Good i'm on the Lllandadam thingy network! Then Victory is ours! Marcus Villanova WLP 17:19, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
I am cavitas there Pierlot McCrooke 17:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Can you come at chat Pierlot McCrooke 18:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Cool i'm on now (notic Time) Marcus Villanova WLP 20:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

## Unspoilt Nature

I already made some rearrangements like altering the infobox, numbering the chapters and uploading images. I don't have time for the actual content of the story just yet but it definitely has to be rewritten. I'll have plenty of time from September the second onwards. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

## State Level

Hi, Thanks for your comments in the pub, but whatever the King says we need to find a legal way of introducing a lower level which is able to execute the Federal Laws, like a Census should be a state involving competence, can you please help me find a legal solution. I hope you understand the speed at witch need to work. JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 18:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes very fast!!! I know do you have a social network to communicate fast? FB, AIM, IRC. Please have one of those. I have a migran rightnow think about what might happen. Marcus Villanova WLP 18:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
It's not that bad . Let me just explain my griefs for a start: The state level is now in paralyze, I think that's quite easy to see, the best example is the lush building of towns. I know that this is Federal Competence but other Laws witch are in FedLaw or Constitiution need to be executed on a lower level. I want to implement a lower level, without creation a possibility to think secession can start, what this basicly means is that we need to implement a controlling organisation which evaluates the state matters. The King is a bid afraid I guess because he lives in Belgium, there the country is already a long time going back words due to bad systems of the states (but that's to complicated to explain). I'll start a special page on which we can work, or maybe we can just work on the page where you counted the active users. JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 18:58, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, just start work under that count on User:Crystalbeastdeck09/Politics. And I totally agree we can have state level politics without have a Civil war. Were not like the US or Libertas, were better than that! We can have a state council or a Govenor without having battles! I hope Dimi isn't thinking that Lovia might turn into the U.S. south of the 1800's! Marcus Villanova WLP 19:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
I know of what he is afraid, right now in Belgium we have o politician trying to separate the country, but that's just what i want to make impossible here. If we create a stable state level with no back doors for 'bad people' it will help the country JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 19:07, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, Are we sure that my parents did give you aaway and were long lost brothers?. Yeah look at the list on at User:Crystalbeastdeck09 there isn't one bad user there. We add one or two inactive or barley active members and there we go. A stable State Council that can decide small things like Taxes, Speed limits, Towns stuff like that. Again I think that Dimi is afraid of State's Right's that led to bad thing's in america Segregation/Slavery and a civil war. But Lovia isn't stupid america, it's Lovia. Marcus Villanova WLP 19:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
Indeed we are responsible, and we are thinking of the future JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 19:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
Okay let's move this convo over to my /Politics page. Where we can finalize a law mabey. Marcus Villanova WLP 19:22, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

## 23 Millstreet

I can already protect it and recognise it as a state monument here if you want :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 06:17, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Good. Marcus Villanova Walden 20:03, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

## Statistics

Hey there, I'm preparing our very own really big Lovian survey and right now I need some basic data. Could you please give your age, nationality and a word best describing your religious and political stance. I need the IRL-data, if you wish not to publicize any of these I'll understand. Thanks. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 11:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

KK here is info:
• Michael Anthony Villanova (FB Name is Micheal Anthony)
• American
• I'm Half of Jewish and christian, but don't care about reiligion
• IRL i'm Center-Left

Marcus Villanova Walden 21:00, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I didn't really need the FB name. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 06:50, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
It was if you wanted to find me...it would be okay! Marcus Villanova Walden 19:40, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

## New Sig test

Marcus Villanova Walden 14:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It works! Marcus Villanova Walden 14:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! Marcus Villanova Walden 14:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I adapted it a little so that the images are equally big. I hope you don't mind. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Cool! Thnx. When I become gov of Clymene i'll add the state seal, ! Marcus Villanova Walden 14:59, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
I was just too late, the signature takes some more time to adjust. Don't you take on too many functions or the line of badges will be bigger than your name. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 15:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Soon it'll be an entire line of stuff, I was even think of adding the logos of tall the places I live but then that would be getting stupid. Marcus Villanova Walden 15:02, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Going back to the old. Marcus Villanova Walden 15:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Simplfying again to another simplier sig. It's also more mobile for other wikas! Marcus Villanova 15:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

## hi!

are you like the page admin or some thing like that?

{C You might have seen me do sports pages. I'm a real sports guy. I realy like football, cricket, tennis

No not an admin but an avid editor! Hello and welcome to this wika. I am in congress and do alot about sports and the comissoner of the LSCA. Our sports league. When on a talk page use four of these things ~. Then people will know who is talking. or use the signature button on your toolbar.
More on sports: I am the owner of the Luca Union and commisioner of the LSCA we currently have a Soccer, curling and Rugby league. We are currenlty under the process of creating a Baseball, Cricket, and Basketball league. Marcus Villanova 20:24, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
Your American. Then i should've said Soccer and not football. I'm British, by the way. Where in America do you live. I'm living near New York now
Ha maybe i'll run into you. I'm living in New york. . Nah I understood it. I'm a big Man U fan and love Rugby. I like american sports too though. Marcus Villanova 20:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

## Challengers Cup 2010

Hi marcus,

we're short 2 teams for the Challengers cup cricket series. I was wondering if you would want to make a cricket team to participate? Horton11 21:01, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Will do..tomorow i'm getting off soon. Yeah I'll make a team! I like baseball better than cricket but it's okay! Marcus Villanova 21:04, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not that much of a cricket fan either but Lovia needs sports variety.

## Apologies

Marcus Villanova, we have had our differences in the past and I regret the numerous occasions in which I have insulted you. Forgive the mistakes of an old man, who temporarily forgot who he truly was. Perhaps I got carried away, but it was my mistake and I should have controlled myself. I have always been a gentleman and was well raised but years on the farm and at sea have made me… well, kind of rough around the edges. In South Africa they would have called me a ‘dwaas’ and a ‘klein aap’, in the Afrikaner language. That roughly translates as: “fool and little monkey”, that’s what my late mother would have called me, may God have her soul. I have also insulted many other people and I have apologized to them in the Speakers Corner at the end of my speech, but I feel like I have insulted you more then the others so a personal apology would be in place. Please forgive the mistakes of an old man who was not thinking straight, and let us talk like equals. I shall no longer look down upon you and insult you. You have not done anything to deserve such a treatment. Drabo13 09:38, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

I hope this is true. If so then it is accepted. Marcus Villanova 19:25, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

## Important message

You have been made the owner of Donia Castle after I killed off my character, but I noticed two users, one of whom is our King, have deciced they want the castle to be blown up. Surely you are against this. Your old comrade, Dr. Magnus 17:53, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Of course. I'll try to defend it!Marcus Villanova 19:25, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

## check this out

Just someting i was working on. maybe we could use it for Lovian money

I see it...remember use four ~ or use sig button! Marcus Villanova 20:57, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

sorry :)

Horton11 20:58, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

## thanks!

thanx for ur vote in Osjenna, Marcus! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 20:39, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

WALDEN KICKS ASS Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 20:40, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
No Truer words! I borught a propsal in the Walden Election Council. I think that should be our Walden Forum! Marcus Villanova 20:43, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
good idea! seems like you're sweeping all competition of the map in clymene! A True Waldener State! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 20:45, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yes I'm very happy lately! Marcus Villanova 20:47, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
and you should be! mr. Governor ;) Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 20:49, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Don't count your chickens before they hatch! Please knock on wood! Marcus Villanova 20:50, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
ah yes :D Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 20:51, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

## Villanova Inc.

So, if Sides is now in the hands of Villanova Inc., then I should ask your permission to greenlight the Libertan (and Dutch) spin-off magazine Koe'Koe. (proposed template, if Dimi allows it, since I copied it from his original). Regards ;) Echocho 11:56, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Actually we dropped sides from our ownership yesterday...uhhh we still own alot of medis though. Marcus Villanova 16:08, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
Dropped it like a hot potato, as they say, haha. That's fine, I have no plans with Sides, I was just curious as to who owns it now so I could add that to the article of the new magazine in Libertas. :) Echocho 19:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
yeah kinda I think sides is dead. Marcus Villanova 20:38, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

## Proposal

i was wondering mabey your company Villanova Inc could join with Fedecinc Group to make a new company. Its just an idea, but it might actually be good Horton11 04:01, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Nah I to stay Villanova Inc. . Marcus Villanova 20:12, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

The NPO indeed is very moderate (read the entire article: Oceana nationalism) as Censuree said, or how you called it, Oceana who are simply proud of their state. Bucu 14:44, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

kk. Marcus Villanova 21:05, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

## Keeping up with...

...the Kardashians is very annoying but it is popular. I wanna make a Lovian version with the Donia Clan. There are quite a few similarities; a large family without a father and with mostly annoying, spoiled members (like, Dalia Donia). It would be the first reality show Lovia ever saw, and it's gonna be a huge soap opera full of bullshit and crazyness. Dr. Magnus 16:31, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

OMG sounds hilarious need money to finance it? Villanova Inc. could help! Really sounds funny! GTG NOw or in a minute or two, I'm going to campgain for the New York's govenor's race! Horay!!! Marcus Villanova 16:35, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Enjoy! And yes, your finance and help would be great, its gonna be big, bad and funny as hell! Dr. Magnus 16:40, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

## Dear Hurbanovan

Time has come to support your candidate, Oos Wes Ilava (CCPL)! He needs your vote, otherwise, Oceana will lose its identity. Please consider a vote before October 18 when the vote closes! Many thanks in advance! Bucu 11:58, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I might. Bucu can we discuss this matter somewhere like a IRC channel?Marcus Villanova 14:26, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Please be loyal to Walden. Andy will bring porgress Pierlot McCrooke 14:34, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
@Marcus: you can talk to Bucu on IRC but it'll have to wait 2 hours; he is blocked for insulting Pierlot. Dr. Magnus 14:35, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Andy will indeed bring progress! Let's support him! JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 14:36, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh I see. @Peilot - We've already swept the elections if Ooos becomes Govenor we have one less enemy and Andy will give a good green approach to the state while Keeping the precious lion asleep. Marcus Villanova 14:38, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
I rather have a strong, progressive leader than a conservative lion... Dimitri 14:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
A true politician speaking! I'm impressed, Villanova, I must say. The old Baron could have not said it better! Dr. Magnus 14:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Marcus, don't change my boy! Andy is the best candidate! JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 14:42, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
A waldener voting a party against women and that is really conservative is like a extreme right voting Groenlinks Pierlot McCrooke 14:43, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Listen to pierlot he's right (green i mean) JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 14:46, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Sure whatever. Now please stop i can't even make an edit on my frecking talk page!! I'll think about it all! Marcus Villanova 14:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
I wonder what will happen; will Marcus succumb to peer pressure or will he make a wise decision? A wise man would vote Ilava, a boy would follow the advice of jesters. One enemy less or ten enemies more? Dr. Magnus 14:50, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
That's one of the reasons I don't like the right beacuse they attck, attack, attack, and look plain stupid. Marcus Villanova 14:56, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Wrong again. Your words are empty, as are the heads of those serving you with their worthless advice. Oos is not right, he is not an extremist, he is a friendly, reasonable guy with a good sense of humour. A good Christian, a good human being and one our finest contributors. Dr. Magnus 15:00, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
@marcus:That is why you should vote andy, a member of your own party. He doesnt attack. He tries to make love/peace. He also brings progress Pierlot McCrooke 15:01, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah like a said more insults.Marcus Villanova 15:02, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Have we gotten this far? Are we fighting over each other's votes now? It is only logical to endorse the candidate of your own party no matter who advices what. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 15:06, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Let me just add this to the talk page. Echocho 15:07, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
@Yuri - I know Yesterday i went around saying "Vote for Cuomo not the Homo Hater." I hope Lovia isn't beoming America ! Marcus Villanova 15:18, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Marcus, could you give me this one last chance? i would really appreciate your vote. i know you care about the peace, and so do i. Having an elected waldener doesn't mean war, does it? It means nature, environment, peace, progressivism, thriving times...! please? i promise Oceana will not do away with OWTB's heritage! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 10:43, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

C'mon Marcus :). Andy could still win! And I'm sure he'll do the best for Oceana. That's why we're in his party, right?, because we know he's good. Martha Van Ghent 13:24, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
I think about it. Marcus Villanova 19:57, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

## Why don't you...

...take a look at: The Tragic Life of A.M. Donia? You may like it, Dr. Magnus 20:35, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a gander at it. Marcus Villanova 21:47, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

...Check out this page to add guests to the guest list. Horton11 22:11, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Villanova Family will attend. Marcus Villanova 13:40, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

## Don't be like Horton11

You're making a lot of pages about people in a theoretical family of yours. Don't. There is no way that you could have that many people in a single family be sufficiently important to have their own articles. If you really want to talk about them, then make a page called the Villanova Family or something, and put them all their. Do not make a whole bunch of articles for the heck of it.

Horton11 did the same thing, and the site council is considering to block him. Don't follow in his steps: make worthwhile edits. Edward Hannis 02:46, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thing is that there Stubs, all off them I don't anything big for them and nothing much Actually I just have two more page stubs to make then I'm done. Also i created a page Villanova Family. Marcus Villanova 13:09, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

## Clymene Tax Reform

I finally got around to helping you out with the Clymene Tax Reform you wanted. Here's an equation form of what you proposed to me. The equation follows as closely as possible the numbers you gave to me, and then adds or subtracts according to marriage or number of kids.

$Tax = 0.0119i - 2507 - 500c - 100m - 100g$

In it, 'i' is annual income, 'c' is number of children, 'm' is married (yes/no) and 'g' is government worker (yes/no). The result is the amount, in the result is your tax. Many results are negative numbers: that means that you earn money, instead of being taxed. Here is an example of the formula. Let's say that you

• Earn \$30,000 a Year,
• Have 1 Child,
• Are not married, (I can hear the CCPL gasping)
• Did once work for the Government.

Then you would have...

$Tax = 0.0119 * 30000 - 2507 - 500 * 1 - 100 * 0 - 100 * 1 = -2507$

Means that you would earn \$2507 as tax. That brings up the next topic of concern, which is how much money you'll make off of this system. If we say that the Lovian economy is similar to that of the USA, then let's look at the following numbers.

• If a person is not married, not a government worker, and has no children, and earn \$210,000 annually, then they have just about no tax.
• Considering this, about 75% of people will pay taxes, and 25% will earn money instead.

That being said, I think your plan is brilliant, albeit lucky. I did do some miniature changes in your numbers in order to make it fit, so that I could get as close to 75% as possible without doing anything over 1% of your original slope, and keeping the default subtraction (in the equation I gave you, it's the 2507) change to a minimum. So yeah. This took me half an hour to do, which is a lot, considering this is in mathematics I learned on my own years ago.

If only finding lines of best fit without a graphing calculator was an easy thing to do...

Tell me what you think...if you get it. Edward Hannis 23:15, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've been trying to implement some tax system also, but it is not really necessary, it doesn't change a thing you see JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 16:13, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yes but still johnson we don't even have a tax plan and since there is notrule to say so, These tax plans are already in place for the State of Clymene.Marcus Villanova 19:25, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
No, their aren't, the law must be voted first. And Btw: The new hamlet, was that possible, i thought we weren't allowed to build since the portland - novesevensk - orange garden history? JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 06:19, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
Update: since the reform, Governors have little power, but one thing remains within the realm: hamlets and neighborhoods. A Governor can build a hamlet without Congressial support. Congress may intervene (check the law) and block the project. The best thing for a Gov to do, is keep it calm with hamlets. Dimitri 06:42, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
Oh okay, sorry, my fault JON THE DUDE JOHNSON 07:30, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
A more interesting question is wether a governor can implement a tax system? Or are you guys going to propose this on the national level? If so I would like to remark that this formula isn't progressive enough for my taste. If you have 1000 you don't mind giving up 10% (still having 900) but if you only have 100 that is a completely different case. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 09:43, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
I think propose which i'll do soon. Marcus Villanova 20:24, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

## New Bank

Marcus, youre in congress right? I was thinking that maybe Lovia needs a national bank if its going to have its own currency. I made a page (User:Horton11/Bank of Lovia). Mabey you could propose to congress the creation of a central bank. I think it can be good for Lovia. Horton11 01:29, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Currently, the tasks of a national bank are already being fulfilled by the Aventis National Bank (since the fusion with NBL). The Department of Finance already owns 50% of that bank so instead of creating a new one we'd better propose to fully nationalize Aventis. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:21, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
yeah Agreed, with Yuri. Marcus Villanova 13:46, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

## Clymene State Law

State Laws have been abolished in the 2010 State Reform. So please don't write new "state laws". The article Clymene State Law should become a historical article now. Dimitri 15:23, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I'll get to that. Marcus Villanova 15:24, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Dimitri 15:26, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

## Sig Test!!

Marcus Villanova Music is Life 22:14, November 10, 2010 (UTC) - Ya!!!! Music is life!!!﻿

Please check out the latest proposal in the Second Chamber! Dimitri 14:28, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
Ha as soon as you sent this I just voted on it...lolz! Marcus Villanova Music is Life 14:30, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks . How's your health? Recovering? :D Dimitri 14:31, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
On thursday started puking, friday okay but felt dizzy. Today woke up and back editing better than ever!!Marcus Villanova Music is Life 14:36, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

### And Lean Forward...

Marcus Villanova Music is Life 17:11, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lets see if it works now...Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Foward 17:13, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

It works!! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Foward 17:15, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Your nick's missing an "r" in forward Martha Van Ghent 07:46, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
Thnx...I also added walden to it Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:46, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

## Show (again)

As you may know I'm currently working on my show Keeping up with the Donia's and I would like to know if you'd be interested in broadcasting it (and advertising it a little bit). Didn't you have your own broadcast, or was that someone else and am I confusing people now? Anyhow, let me know! Dr. Magnus 17:07, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

No Villanova inc is only in the Newspaper and radio... maybe LTV by Johnson??? Marcus Villanova Music is Life 17:09, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

## Oceana Late

You are on Oceana Late, hope you don't mind? Dr. Magnus 07:24, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Not at all ! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 22:18, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

## UC

Could you please finish up some of your pages like Lovian Youth Baseball League? It's not very good for the sports reputation in Lovia if all pages are UC and then not edited for a few months :) Also note that many are orphaned (not linked from any other page on the wiki). --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:33, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Crap i totally forgot. I fix that now. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:14, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for your effort :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 13:44, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
I'll be doing a different state everyday should be done soon.=]Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 16:21, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
Very well. We'll be waiting patiently :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:32, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

## You've got mail!

And it pretty darn important, Dr. Magnus 20:31, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

kk. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:31, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

## Have this

While you may be corrupt, dishonest and fraudulent, a criminal and a man who's reputation has been utterly destroyed by the media, I still appreciate the many good things you did for the site, such as your work on promoting sport in Lovia. Therefore a little sign of appreciation would be in order! Pierius Magnus 16:33, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

thanks, alot. this means still. thnx again. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

## Going to Hershey?

Gotta love that place! Dimitri 12:16, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yep for my 8th grade trip were going on a three days trip. We're gonna see the battle of Gettesyberg, The amish country (I'll try to talk to them about immigarting to Lovia some more). I've been to amish country before like twice but it's always nice to see the countryside. And on the thrid day were going to philidelphia to see the liberty bell. I so exicted!!! I can't wait it's gonna me awesome! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:17, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

## Why walden likes you

you're a great politician and party man, man! I think the whole "controversy" with you and Pierlot has been blown up. i sort of understand you supported Ilava in the state elections; Perhaps he is more competent than I am. So, I "forgive" you man. You are too valuable to me and to our party. I hope you still feel the same way about Walden? the great green party. Perhaps we're a bit smaller now, but we're still as vibrant as ever! like Medvedev just told me, Walden is true innovation. Will you stay by our side, comrade? Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 17:18, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I will of coruse stay. You are my "bro" or Bromigos in How I met your mother. i will stay! Let's deal the elections now. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:14, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I saw somewhere a question (or an attempt to challenge me, dunno, doesn't mind 'cause I don't care), don't know where, whether I would start a trial against you.
Well, my answer is no. You didn't do anything wrong to me, concerning this "deal" or miscommunication. And if there is a reason for me to start one, it will be about some things you said about/to me on grounds of basically nothing, which damage my name, but I won't because 1) I think everyone should be completely free to express his or her opinion, although it could be harassing and 2) I don't have big plans for the elections (so my name can be damaged :P).
However, I don't know what the opinion of the prosecutor (openbaar aanklager in Dutch?) is about this case and I do disapprove (attempts to) fraud in elections, which I find shameful and painful - also for the image of entire Lovian politics and democracy.
But again, no, personally I will not start a trial against you. I've had enough shit with trials and stuff :P Bucu 18:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

agreed i hope this ends soon. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:22, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
I just realized what great bachelor paper there could be in perception of political crisis. Thank you guys! Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:04, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Umm...okay!Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:43, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

## Suggestion

I suggest that you merge some of your hospitals in Clymene. 4 is just too much for such an small area. 1 hospital would be more fit Pierlot McCrooke 21:27, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

No, I want Clymene Citizens to have great acess to affordable health care and fast in case of a emergancy. Don't You? Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:47, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
Clymene is so small, everyone can access 1 hospital fast. So I think only 1 is REALLY neccesary Pierlot McCrooke 08:42, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Marcus, newsflash: McCrooke is running for McCrooke, replacing Medvedev. Pierius Magnus 21:50, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wow what a horrible choice, expect a Cpl.nm coalition then. In any case I hope for a CCPL-Walden Coalition, why? There at least active and have made great comprimises, CPL.nm (besides Yuri) is kinda inactive and With peirlot in the front Cpl.nm will crash and burn. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:53, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
I am not officially runnning for PM. However. I want to do. You may choose if you agree with it or not. I am not going to push anti-cabal legislation. That wouldnt help Lovia any further Pierlot McCrooke 08:42, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
It still doesn't matter. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:25, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

## Mail

You got mail and it's important. Pierius Magnus 22:41, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

okay. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 22:50, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Read it...what now? Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 22:56, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I already replied, bro. Pierius Magnus 23:01, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I saw, and i re-replied...lolz this is becoming tedious ! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 23:05, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

## Election thrills!

I got you a nice Waldenistic election poster... Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 14:38, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Looks beautiful!!! I Love this!!! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:04, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks man! I was inspired by WALDEN POWER! haha. i believe we're gonna do just fine in the elections. You and Justin've been doing a nice and smooth campaign and Martha has been on to some real good work as Governor too. Hope walden gets its four members elected! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 15:27, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I hope so to, well six how this new system of voting works out. On WEC I set out a plan so all of us can get elected. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:29, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
I hope it works out fine...! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 15:32, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
I hope so too. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:34, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

## Mapmakers

In my expierence the best mapmakers (cartographers, if you will) are from Llamada, as Dimitri already told you. Try Sjors for example, who made most of the maps at Harvia or otherwise Tahr78, Apoo or Jillids. Then there is this odd little fellow Greenday who seems to be pretty good at it. Just ask around. Pierius Magnus 15:34, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is sjors still active on Llamada? He's seemed to escape the country ! And which Llamda there seems to be like 2000! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

There is only one Llamada, and it located at www.llamadawiki.nl. If you'll type it in your search bar it should redirect you. Try their webchat at ##llamadawiki-nl, you'll find most of them out there. They can be difficult to trace, but they are very helpful and active people. They seem to be online 24\7, dunno why, lol! Pierius Magnus 15:42, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cool! I'll ask on IRC. Thnx. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 15:43, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah no luck there. Maybe I don't have connections like you with the dutch wikia's maybe you should ask for a "Map of a small island Country" Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 16:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

## Good luck Marcus!!

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It's time to rumble! No seriously. Tomorrow, Walden presents four great members to the people of Lovia. We want them (the people) to vote for us, so we can represent them. They, that's the Walden Lovian: he or she cares about other people, about our atmosphere and our environment, about simple and accessible government too. We are their representatives in Congress.

So Marcus, I wish you the very best of luck! There's not a single person in Lovia who doesn't know you. They've all seen what an enthusiastic and kick-ass guy you are. Indispensable really. So... GO!!! Andy McCandless (WALDEN) 14:02, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

• starts signing My Chem* "Go...just get up and GO!" Oh yeah Let's get pumped! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 14:55, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

## The trial

I am very sorry for the misunderstanding there seems to have been. I was under the belief that the trial was no longer of any use, since the accused has practically left the wiki, and since there seemed little urgency in the case. I do count this as a mistake of mine. Would you like to start the trial after all, or would you rather be dropping your charges? --Arthur Jefferson 21:51, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, no it's okay..but in any case just be prepared beacuse thes econd he comes back he'll be punished...for now you can just relax! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 22:10, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

## Debate!

Elections can be terribly heated. What we should, above all, not forget, is that elections are about a good program and great ideas for 2011 and the future. That's why there's the 2011 Speakers' Corner Debate. All candidates can participate! Also, please add questions of your own.
Good luck in the upcoming,

Thanks i'll join the debate!Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 00:11, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

## Dear Governor of Clymene

I have a question concerning your state. I see there are some irregularities. Congress decided in 2010 that both Landwirtschaft and Plains cannot exist [2]. Therefore, all links to these articles and articles directly related to these places have to be deleted. See [3] and [4] for the lists of links. Would you be so kind, as Governor of this tremendous state, to try to solve this? It would avoid a lot of confusion in Clymene! Cristian Latin 21:51, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay but I didn't Re-make plains, i was planing to but okay. Sure i'll try to discuss these issues in the first chamber. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:17, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

## Hi

Please note the page Deputy Governor list LW as your home town. You need to have a residence in Clymene in order to keep the job, so please get a new house. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 10:25, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Though that sounds like logic, I'm not sure if it is obliged. You must be a resident in the state where you run for governor, but I can't think of any restrictions once elected. It would however be decent to keep the house, democracy and electorate and all that. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 10:28, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Well, it's not very useful if you live in f.e. Hurb and then you are governor in Seven. So, it might not be obliged by law, but it is for simple practical reasons. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 10:30, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
In Kings we have a house/office for the State administration. I sometimes sleep there if I stayed up late for work. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 10:33, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I'm not really talking about staying in the office :P I meant to say that if there's something unexpected, it's the governor's task to be there immediately and the governor should have a binding with the people. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 10:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
The administrative building could have a private wing that functions as the governor's house, no? Like an 'ambtswoning'? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 11:08, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
No, I think not. Cause then a governor would have 4 houses. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:35, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Not if he only owns two houses which are both outside 'his' state. And even then a governor can occupy an 'ambtswoning' without owning it. But I do think it would be best to have a house in the state where you're governor. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 11:56, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
totally forgot i'll move back to my first town of my beautiful Adoha, I like nice weather! Also the shity thing about the US is that you can live New York but run in Alaska. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:23, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Marcus :). I'm planning to brush up Noble City a bit. You have a residence in Downtown, would it be okay if you sold that house a bought a nice, huge penthouse in one of the (many) residential towers in the city? I'd like to do something about our cityscape, you see Martha Van Ghent 10:30, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

okay, will do. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 20:36, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

## NT

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If you need an image for some article on the election... here you go! Cristian Latin 21:49, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice thanks can you fix Template:PCP Infobox i'm really not so good with the Complex Code shit. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try, give me a sec Cristian Latin 21:55, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 21:57, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

## Support

I saw you lost all Walden support in the elections, falling on the last position. So I used my Major vote for you, because I think that the PCP does deserve a chance in Congress. However this is not without any risks, so I would like to ask you if you would consider some votes for us, me, Hannis, or anyone else. Otherwise I am not sure whether I can let my Major vote on you, because maybe I should use it then for a CCPLer, do you understand me ? You never know how it turns. Cristian Latin 12:44, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I see no one really has your back here. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.Walden 17:21, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks man, this will do :D. I predict a flourishing collaboration! Cristian Latin 16:53, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

## Donia I

You have been given a big responsability in the Donia I government, Villanova. Do you think you're up to the challenge, bro? I need people in my government I can rely on. Pierius Magnus 21:20, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes yes yes!!! thank you so much. I will have a Tax and benifits law by June. Thing is I'm getting a Netbook in April so i'll be able to be on longer and able to write more complex and smarter laws! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 21:46, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
You will get all the time you need to prove yourself worthy of the task you've been given. I will be patient. Good luck and give 'em @#!*% , brother! Pierius Magnus 21:55, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
You now only have IA & T. I had to give Finance to Johnny, because, well just because. Diplomatic reasons. You may thank our King for that. I hope you don't mind this too much - I really didn't have much of a choice but it sucks big time, I can tell you that. Pierius Magnus 07:46, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
IA&T a real progressive position! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 18:43, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

## Dear Governor

I'm preparing an 'unofficial' census of Lovia's population, and was wondering if you could tell me the percentage of the population of your state that live in rural areas (i.e. not in cities, towns or hamlets). Thanks in advance! --Semyon 16:09, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

800, seems like a reasonable number. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 21:16, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks. --Semyon 21:23, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

## New wiki

Hi! I just started a wiki about a small Mediterranean country called Carrington Island (or Brunant, in Dutch). I wanted to know if you wanted to join. I could use a representative for one of the Parishes or even the Prime Minister. HORTON11 06:12, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks i might join but right noe i'm busy at two wikis and have other personal obligations at the time. I'll join in late March! thanks dude i'll check it out soon though! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 20:18, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
No problem. HORTON11 21:49, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

## Hi

I havea person in another wiki (Sofia Andersen). Do I have to use the same personage here or do I make other person for this site. Sofia Andersen 22:08, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

you can if you want to. I use Marcus Villanova in most wikias. I see my friend horton has made a new wiki that's turning out nice, cool! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 23:48, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

## Lawyer

Well the trial has to procceed and we (the defendents and our lawyers) have to tell our story. I've done that today and so has my other lawyer, Mr. Abrahams. Now I'd like you to do the speak in our defense, underneath Mr. Abraham's little speech. It's quite important and it has to happen asap (before the 18th of February). Thanks in advance, Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 21:15, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I shall speak now. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 21:17, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Well thank you, sir! I'll be eagerly awaiting your brilliant response then! :D Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 21:20, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Please write all your questions down so I can answer them all at once. I'll either do so now or next thing in the morning, okay? I do not have a lot of time on my hands. Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 21:32, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
I have now answered your questions to the best of my ability, Mr. Villanova. You may procceed. (of, and thanks!) Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 11:02, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

## Trial

In your closing speech, you said that " the group does have horrible mass-destruction weapons", so maybe you should change it to not have horrible... HORTON11 21:27, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lol...

## Reconsider

I am asking you to reconsider your vote here on this important proposal of mine. Let me tell you why:

1. Aesopos may not be very active, but neither are any of us (and I know he's often around without editing, a silent witness so to speak )
2. Aesopos is as impartial as can be (although I also had Semyon in mind, but haven't seen him in quite a while either so decided against that)
3. Both Semyon and Aesopos (Mr. Washington) applied for the position of Supreme Court Judge over a month ago, whereas you didn't - I never knew you had ambitions in that direction until today when I noticed you opposed appointing Aesopos, frankly
4. Last but not least, Marcus, you are a MOTC and a very important one to us (the Christian-Coalition, as far as it even excists) - we cannot afford losing you, of all people, and I feel you could accomplish much more as a MOTC then you could as a Judge (a judge is supposed to be neutral and impartial, thus you could no longer be active in politics and your hands would be tied, which you would not like)

Just read, brother, and think about it. And maybe you'd be so kind to change that lill' CONTRA in a PRO, it's for the best. Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 10:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I love how you always harass people, even at the slightest chance of a favorable change. ^^ Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:58, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
Well, it's just my way of life! It works, too: that's how I got my last job. Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 09:25, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

There really is no christian coalition beacuse none was proposed so it doesn't know exist, I have read it but it just seems he's way too inactive to understand the events following up to case and the events in the case. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 12:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

But none of the active candidates are really impartial enough. But, we could have, say, a secretary (an active person) who reports events to the judge (if he's inactive). HORTON11 13:42, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
There are no impartial judges, period. Everyone feels biased towards this idea or that person; what we really need is a person who can put these feelings aside when judging a case. And of course some legal means to contest a court judgement. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 06:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

## Federal Police

Hi there, buddy! Could you be so kind to appoint a federal building to the Federal Police? I need a building for the Federal Police itself & a special room for the Clymene Police Traffic Unit. Many thanks! Cristian Latin 17:05, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

@Second Chamber: Please see my comment. You don't have to block Aesopos if you want to become a Judge too. The only thing you should do is starting a new proposal, similar to Aesop's. Don't block him, we can have more Judges, even 3, 4, or more. You (& Aesop) included. Cristian Latin 19:03, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wait I never said block someone. You can add the biulding yourself. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 00:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

What he means, Marcus, is that by voting CONTRA in the Second Chamber you are blocking the proposal and with that, Aesopos' chances at becoming a Supreme Court Judge. As Bucu said, more then one Judge may be appointed. That means that after the proposal passes (which it will, if you'd vote PRO) you yourself can also apply. Any objections left, Mr. Villanova? Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 09:30, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
As Bucu said, more then one Judge may be appointed. - I guess I am starting to sound like a whining kindergarten teacher but to avoid all confusion: only if we first amend our Constitution (which I btw support). Regaliorum (S Kitana) 16:10, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
That's not exactly true, Yuri. The article of the Judges mentioned (see the Pub) that in the near future, more Judges would be appointed. I never read anything in the Fed. Law that says that only one Judge may be appointed. Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 18:05, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

## Tourism

I am trying to increase tourism to Adoha. As the governor, would you be able to bring more stores to Atrium Center or The Shops at Spanish Plaza? HORTON11 00:26, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

## Mail

You got mail! Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 08:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks will check. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 10:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
I'd like it if you would be able to RESPOND next time. Would be nice. ^^ Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 12:20, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

## First Chamber

Hi, I undid your last edit. You cannot just change the laws. Furthermore I think it is time to protect these pages so the contents cannot be tampered with. Thank you for your cooperation. Aesopos 04:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

What the heck do you mean, i'm in congress and i wrote that proposed law!!! I was editing it beacuse it was mine and to adapt it to my fellow congressmen. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 12:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, okay, I got the message. But it might not be a bad idea to have a look at this before putting something on paper. Aesopos 13:17, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay . Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 17:04, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

## Again...

...you've got mail. And again, it's pretty damn important, comrade! Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 12:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

## The Office

I noticed you like The Office? That would be the American version, right? A friend of mine introduced me to the British original and I think it's just awesome. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 10:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah the american though i did see two episodes of the biritish version. The boss here Michael (Steve Carrell) Just left by eloping and now they got the most unfunny man in the world Will Farrell. What I never get is why british TV shows only run for like 2 seasons of 10 episodes. If it's good keep it! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 11:21, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
Na, it would loose strength after a while. I believe it is best to stop when everybody is asking for more. This leaves me disappointed and satisfied at the same time. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
One other question did ricky gervais also say "that's what she said!"? Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 00:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
Not that I can recall, but Gervais definitely is a most excellent actor for that role. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:28, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah i really wanted gervais to be the new boss here,but sadly no. Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward 10:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Our nation does in fact have a leader. His name is Ygo August Donia and he is currently incarcerated. He is the elected Prime Minister of Lovia and will serve out his term. Also, please take note: he has the power to take back control, and will use these means if needed or if provoked.

He would even be willing to call for new elections, and make it happen, but without a doubt, his name has to be cleared and the Judge that both sentenced Donia and carried out the sentence he himself had given at the same time has to publically apologize for doing so, and step down from office.

{C Replacing the Judge in question has failed because certain people, despite having been asked to vote on the proposal several times, have refused to do so. It is hard, as one can imagine, to make a stand from prison or while being exiled...

Still, do not underestimate the power certain individuals still hold. Never have they misused their power, for they were never provoked. Times have changed, though. There is no need in denying that. Perhaps more drastic measures will ultimately be required. Exiled Leader 16:16, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

## PM

How would you like to succeed me as Lovia's PM until the next elections (in 2012)? You would govern over a Congress filled only with folk active the last week or two, and thus you would work together with an active group of people and actually get things done for a change. It would be the perfect reward for those who stayed active when other simply gave up. Exiled Leader 21:15, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay but you have some important mail first, thanks tho! Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:21, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
I'll check your mail tommorrow, boy. It's late out here, as you may know. Exiled Leader 21:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fine. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

You will be a good leader. Better then me, anyway. You have NO IDEA how conservative and rightist I actually am. Exiled Leader 21:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

## Political Party

Thanks for the offer, but I support every single one of the LDP's current policies (except I'm neutral on getting rid of the king), and I've always wanted to lead a fake political party. Also, the old leader of the LDP is 14 months inactive, could I replace him? —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 15:00, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Her, she was very rude and insulting so yes take her spot! Or if you want start your own party. And again welcome. You seem very good with wikia stuff. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:06, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

xD Thanks. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 15:08, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

You may also join the UNS The Master's Voice 15:13, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

To let you know there populist nationalist. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:16, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Would you please set up your government now that the Condensement bill has been passed? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sure i'll do that now. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:40, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
Well at least ur housing-shizzle has passed now, 'cuz of my vote for one. Ain't I a great redneck doing just as you want? Anyway, Marcus, the far-right is here to stay. We're here, and you're queer... Nah, just messing with ya! The Master's Voice 21:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry lost my cool on Fakking Helds page. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:03, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
Never mind bro. I don't know where that's all about, but trust me if I tell you we won't allow anyone to transform the UNS into the KKK. The Master's Voice 05:33, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Housing-shizzle? What's that? xD TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Somthing just made-up Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:23, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

## KKK

I would like you to know the UNS is in no way associated with the KKK nor do we have any plans in that direction or the desire to be linked to any terrorist organisation whatsoever. Just thought you'd be interest. Violence and hatred must never be a tool or even a goal in itself - armed resistance is only a last resort, a drastic remedy for darker times.
Yes sir, we do have our share of extremist and radical members (of which I myself am one) yet at some point we have to draw the line and this is where I draw it: in no way do we wish to be linked to the KKK. One person who did make the connection is no official member and did not have the authority to speak on behalf of the party.
Just thought you should know.

--The Master's Voice 19:34, May 4, 2011 (UTC) Sure. I'll just hope the best for all our parties. Maybe we should make a anti-defemation league for lovians. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Most definetely not! The American "Anti-Defamation League" described it's goals to protect Israel, and is thus clearly a vile, disgusting pro-Zionist organisation. I also remember the ADL didn't care about the Armenian Genocide and refused to acknowledge it. Surely, we should not name an organisation or league after those nuttjobs who seem to deny all other genocides but the one their own tribe. Like there was never one in Armenia, China or Rwanda... The Master's Voice 19:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also i see you would love to protect the white race as said on your user page. So i'll stick to thinking your Lovia's Klan. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay so, in your point of view, "seeking to protect one's race" is a bad thing, and equals crime and hatred? What a twistes mind you have, buddy. See it like this: you know see a little old lady hanging from a cliff - do you leave her to die or pick her up and save her? You would leave her, judging from your answer. I'd save her, as I would save my race when it faces extinction. The Master's Voice 20:03, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not very good at analogies or situational things, yes i would save the women but it wouldn't matter what race she was. Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:08, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

You say 'protect the race' but if you do that without force you wont be able to push your goals. If you don't forbid interracial marriages, allow the message of multiculturalism to be spread and don't deport all non-whites, how can you ever achieve your goal? About the dilemma: plenty of reasons to save the poor girl, sheer compassion or live-long guilt would do the job for me. Though I must admit that compassion and guilt are mechanisms evolved to assure the survival of the species (as in 'human'). A real dilemma would be do I save the black girl or the white girl if only one can be saved? As I don't believe in racial backwardness I am indifferent to this choice. If you are able to make a clear decision which you feel to be dominant over the other option, you are racist. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
If only one girl could be saved, I'd pick the one I like best, knowing that if I refuse to choose, both die, and I could not live with myself knowing I let someone perish who I could have saved. I myself would probably save the white girl, given that I liked neither girl more then the other and knew none of them personally. It's a moral dilemma, Yuri, but you won't expect to pick the black girl just out of fear of looking like a racist? What answer would be "politically correct", in your eyes? Like Sophies choice, you can never make a decision that is 100% correct. Yes, I am a racist, but I am no animal. I, too, have a conscience. Unlike some, I cannot turn it off or ignore it. The Master's Voice 15:33, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
You proved my point: if you don't know any of the girls you ought to be indecisive. I wouldn't pick the black girl out of fear of being called a racist, I am indifferent. I can only save one live and at this point it doesn't make a difference to me which one that is. If you on the other hand would pick the white girl out of racial considerations... I'm not saying you should pick the black girl, I'm saying you should be indifferent to the choice too. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:51, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Easy to say right here. I just hope I won't be put in such a situation. If you are put in such a situation, you can no longer be indifferent. You owe it to those people to save at least one. And why not try to save both? I mean, try or die trying. It ain't over till it's over. We could speak for hours over what we should do, or would do. But in a situation like that, you act. You probably pick the girl closest too you, so that you will have time to save the other one too. The Master's Voice 14:42, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
I think he tries to say that you shouldn't care who you save, as long as you save one. And don't spoil a good old thought-experiment by adding details, you are equally far of both. I'd drop the one that yells for help first/hardest. Aged youngman 15:05, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
A wise decision, King Solomon, a test of character to determine who lives or who dies. Still, I wonder if you'd be so clear of mind when the occasion occurs to make a concious and well-thought of decision. You have to act, follow your instincts. The Master's Voice 15:11, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
I don't have to do nothing, I could make them both fall too. I just want the person I saved to wonder 'why me?' Maybe she will go live a good live then, for whatever that means. Aged youngman 15:15, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Assuming I have enough strength in me, I would grab them both with one arm and pull them both over the cliff to safety. Not as cool and mysterious, yet more humane. But then I assume they are both skinny girls, who says one isn't 300 pounds? The Master's Voice 15:20, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
And this entire bad assumption and roleplaying thing falls apart Mr. Kae-su is very smart Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
What roleplaying? The Master's Voice 19:42, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Dunno Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:48, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Well, it has been said before that I am very talented actor. The Master's Voice 19:51, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
If Will Farrell or Mel Gibson said that don't feel to happy Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:57, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Mel Gibson is a terrific fellow - love him as a person, respect him for his views and his movies. Especially as a director I think he's great. If he weren't a drunk wife-beater he'd be my hero. The Master's Voice 20:01, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

And if satan wasn't satan he's be not satan...I don't know where i'm going with this Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:20, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh c'mon dude, you aren't seriously comparing Gibson to Satan, are you? The Master's Voice 20:23, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, he may not be satan but is like a 8th cousin or somthing Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:27, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Like the way Dick Cheney and Obongo are distant cousins too? The Master's Voice 20:32, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Who is Obongo? Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:40, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Last time he checked, it resided in the White House and called itself the president of "the greatest nation of the world". The Master's Voice 20:43, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sure...*starts to walk away slowly...then starts to run* Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:51, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

You can run but you can't hide... like Osama. The Master's Voice 20:53, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

As a child i was always good at seeking never hiding Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:54, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I always got bored and sneaked out. You can seek all you want, but you ain't gonna find someone who just left. The Master's Voice 20:58, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Once I took a nap, had dinner, watched some TV, and went back outside, only game of Hide and seek I ever won. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:30, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

## Philly

You're goig to Philly? Thats where my home is! HORTON11 21:58, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Really, maybe i'll see you! i'm going to consitution hall, to see the liberty bell and just everything in Philly in the first day, next i vist the original amish folk, my favorite place to go on vacation, it'll be the fifth time in Amish Country. Then Gettysburg for some ghost hunting or to learn about what happened there or just see little round top, and then on the last day in Hersey to eat chocolate and then go back home (a 4 1/2 hours drive) and then take a two hour drive to see my favorite New York Mets take on the Atlanta Braves. So it'll be an exciting week! Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:03, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Actually we're living in Brazil right now. But we still have our home in Philly and we'll return there in august I hope (if not we might just return to Belgium). HORTON11 22:09, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I heard the economy is great in Brazil, they elected a socalist farmer with fourth grade education and got the most productive growing economy ever. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:13, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well actually its a female president (1st ever) who was an anti-government protester in the 80s. Plus the weather is really nice. HORTON11 22:17, May 6, 2011 (UTC) lllllllllllll00000000000l bnp0p[p--[==--=-0p00ppp888888

The president before the female was the farmer dude? What's up with all those numbers? Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:28, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry those were my little brothers. One ( the 4 year old) is always getting my baby brother to do these things. HORTON11 22:35, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ha, it's fine. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:03, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

'The farmer' would be Lula da Silva, right? And now they have Dilma Rousseff. They are socialists who use the economic growth to aid the entire society. @Horton: back to Belgium? So you lived here before? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 11:31, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
Maybe we should use that here Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:59, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
The problem is the US has a fairly large debt (even more true for the European countries). Brazil can use its new growth to invest, as can China. European countries have trouble financing their social security, which is why many US politicians don't like MediCare: it will cost money that is needed to pay the national debt/create more growth. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 12:11, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
Which is a stupid idea when the republicans put it foward they all said "yea" but then when everyone else said this bill is @#!*% , beacuse no one wants to cut all benefits from the government, they all ran away from it. But of cousre we can't tax the rich. Right? Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:15, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
A friend of mine pointed out something Stiglitz said: the US doesn't just lack progressive taxation, since Bush jr. taxation is even degressive - making wealth flow from poor to rich!! Stiglitz isn't just any guy, he won the Noble Prize for economics. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 12:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

True there's no such thing as trickled down economics. Beacuse when the rich are that greedy what do you expect them to do? Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:22, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

If only Congress was filled with Obama's. I'm confident he wants to create a more progressive society. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 12:26, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt it. Seriously they did nothing...except make a health care bill that does nothing but say that insurance companies can't drop you, which does (you guessed it) jack crap! Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:29, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Being president doesn't help: he is supposed to be a consensus figure. Republicans hate his bills and most democrats simply want another term in office, so they think he should 'take it easy'. If an Obama could do as he wishes I think you'd now have a UK- or Canada-like social security system. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 12:33, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of UK and Canada, they recently had elections Canada in one case has gone conservative crazy! And the Quebec Nationalists lost almost all there seats. Labour won a whole lot councilers and councils, the LibDems look like idiots when the conservatives aren't by there side. And here in the US some special elections were held and the democrats one about 10% of them, considereing all the vacant positions were from republicans who either, had sex with lots of prositutes on craigslist, has sex with his campaign manager who was also his bestfriends wife or just felt like quiting. I'm spilt on wheather to celebrate for progressives or just stay mad. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

@Yuri- I was born in Belgium, and much of my family lives there, so its like a second home. HORTON11 14:35, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, just so you know, the LDP and the LU are now the Liberal Democratic Party. Could you fix that on the school board members picture for Adoha Elementary? (I would put it on the image talk but Wikia hates that namespace) TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:39, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Will do. I don't get that either. This wikia can get very wierd Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:42, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add some LDP members to the Newhaven Elementary school board please? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:55, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Clarifying what Marcus said about the Lib Dems: Basically they promised to vote against any rise in university tuition fees, but in coalition you have to compromise, right? so when the Conservatives decided to triple fees, they went along with it. Their support base is mainly among students, so they've lost half their support. Everyone at my school is furious with them - I'll have to pay £9000 for university; the guys in the class above me, only £3000. --Semyon 10:20, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I live in a pretty diverse neighboorhood, with Irish, British, Italians, and African-Americans. So i'm pretty happy where i live, and keep up with British, Irish, and Canadian politics. I was very happy on May 5th win the Alternative Vote wasn't passed and Labour won many Local Elections! Go Ed Millibrand! Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:05, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

## Replacing Images

Hey, you seem to keep uploading new images instead of replacing old ones you don't want anymore. If you didn't know this, there is a button just below that version history on an image page that says "Upload a new version of the file". Click that to upload a new version, instead of uploading a whole new image. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:56, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Will do Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
I didn't know you were part-Dutch. I'm actually Belgian, and most of my mom's family is either Belgian or Dutch. HORTON11 15:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
Hey i'm pretty much everything european, Italian, German, Dutch, Russian, Lithuanian (If you count russia and lithuaniaas the same thing go ahead) Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
Quite an interesting ancestry you got there! As for me, I'm just plain and simple when it comes to ancestry; all my ancestors came from the same region from the same country, for centuries... makes one helluva boring family tree, trust me! The Master's Voice 20:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
My dad's family is all American as far back as the 1700s I think. HORTON11 21:10, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
that's pretty amazing actually.Just to think your great great great........grandfather could have been a early settler. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:38, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
He was probably a poor Englishman looking for work/adventure. Well, according to my Belgian grandmother one of my distant great great grandmothers (really far back) was married to or born to a count of Namur. HORTON11 22:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
Quite interesting. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:15, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

## Xavier Jackson

I need to know a bit more about the ideology of your father. If you have to choose two words from the following, which would you choose to describe his political views? One of these: progressive, conservative, christian and one of these: separatism, regionalism, centralism. Then I can add him to the state elections :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

He actually wasn't my father but my uncle's, wife's father. He was a Progressive, Oceana Nationalist, but ran as a independent. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:17, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, indeed I read Michaela as Marcus for some reason :P Anyway, thanks for helping :) One question remains: was he pro or contra an independent state of Oceana? --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:29, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I always saw pro, more or less but he'd like it to be a independent province if that's all he could get. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:32, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm.. Let's call it "semi-separatism" :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:43, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:45, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

## Rick Frances

I don't think he fits in CPL.nm, I think he would fit more in LDP or LAP. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:32, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why not compromise and make him an independent? Grabbing figures from the past to support seems a bit weird anyway. --Semyon 12:35, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Or make him the last remaining Waldener on the planet. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No, I think he should not be in Congress, although I guess an independent would be alright. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:46, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Nah we can keep him a LAPer. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:47, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, also, I was planning on giving LAP 3 seats, for Percival, Lars, and Hillbilly. I think adding Rick Frances would be okay, in addition to my LDP seats. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

LAP or LDP would be3 a good fit for him. See what we did before you came is that congresses from 2003-2007 is fake, and that they disapeared like instantly. So it would be good for some of them to return. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I am having Samantha Brown (former Lovian DP) come back. She was in Congresses 2003-2005, but was voted out in 2006. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:57, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Good! some old faces and some new ones. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:59, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

## Price of Drugs

With the labor laws of Lovia, as well with the crippling tax on corporations in Lovia, I'm afraid our production in Lovia can not keep up with the demands of Canada as well with Lovia. Scribner Pharmaceuticals will not be able to operate all three of its key plants in Lovia if measures are taken, which may cause loss in jobs, spike in prices of forgein drug products, or shortage of medical goods. We could raise the price of drugs provided to the Lovian government for its healthcare system or if the government may have another plan, it would be great if you could share your plan.

Nathaniel Scribner 08:04, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Along with high taxes, comes a high cost of living. Along with regulation comes higher cost of living. I support a capitalistic-universal health care system in which doctors and check ups, surgery is totaly free. Using Darwins "survival of the fittest" the best hospitals and most helpful and sucessful doctors would get raises and huge payments, while peoplen pay nothing. But when it comes to prescrpitions and medicine would give a small subsidy to these companies and put a sales tax higher than others. Of course welfare and the government would help people making less money pay less. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:14, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

@Marcus: ever considered a private hospital might cut on its services in order to be more efficient? It could encourage doctors to spend less time a patient, postpone infrastructural works, keep outdated machines running, etc. just to get the government-provided bonus. I agree to market incentives in the hospital network, but there should be at least public owned hospitals as a back-up. This way the private yet subsidized hospitals can offer free assistance but wont cut on the quality. If they did people would run to the equally-cheap public ones. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:41, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

People and hospital would valuate them so the doctors just can't say "I saw 55555555555 paitents today" and government supervisers saying "Ummm...no that's wrong you saw 12" also to check the hospitals. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

## FFTT

Are they going to release any new albums. If so they could work with Caribbean Groove. HORTON11 21:59, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Villanova, will not be recording new songs at the moment. But maybe next year! Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:04, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

## Tomorrow

Dear Mr. Prime Minister

The police would like hold some what a new tradition of a style parade and having guests from all the across the nation to present themselves. Towns, states, companies, political parties, school kids, farmers, all sorts would be allowed to watch or participate in the parade. I'd also like to arrange an oath to Lovia and to the new Prime Minister from the police. If you have any other ideas, please contact me. Nathaniel Scribner 05:02, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just tell me the route and it can be approved. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:10, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

## Congressmen

We should make a page for the new congress where we can put the names of congressmen and congresswomen. HORTON11

Yeah we did, Remember we passed a law about it! It's at the National Congressperson Order, i'll put the layout so others can follow. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:09, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

## Sylvanian village

Are you still planning to make a village in Sylvania? Cause I made a map we could use. HORTON11 17:40, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I've seen it. It's up to the inactive governor of Sylvania, not me i would approve but it's not my desicion. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:07, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe as PM you could appoint an acting governor (me, maybe?) since Martha won't likely be performing her duties anytime soon. HORTON11 18:23, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... first you'd have to resign as Deputy of Kings, but even if marth resigned Mr.Royale would take her spot. In any case. We have elections in October in which I'd want people to have other charaters again run for office. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:41, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

But he isn't evenactive anymore. Well we could also hold special state elections. HORTON11 18:56, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, I forgot about this. I was planning it to be located in the Stephen Headlands (the northwest) on the peninsula, and it would be a port city, mostly like Sofasi as opposed to Adoha. It would also be a big agricultural area. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 19:26, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Stephen headlands is perfect. Maybe even near the place where Miguel Castillo y Espada supposedly landed. HORTON11 19:56, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty then! Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:44, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Do you have any name suggestions. HORTON11 02:37, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Espada town? Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:27, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

No, please. I don't want a Spanish themed town. I'd like one like Train Village, with no random ethnic group having a lot of people there... TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:21, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I thought about naming a plaza and a beach after Castillo, but not the whole village. HORTON11 15:04, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Plaza would be okay, but preferably not a beach. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 16:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

What about calling it Charles Town? HORTON11 18:53, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

IDK, i'd like a small progressive german farming town. Wait i actually tried that once didn't work out Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:01, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Not two separate words. Charlestown would be alright, and Charleston would be even better. A name like <name>'s Point would be great, maybe Stephen's Point? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:11, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

And could you not have a name like "Here Street"? That is not a good name, lol. How about Charles Street? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:13, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Charles street is fine. I prefer Charleston over Stephen's point, but Stephen's Landing could also be a choice. HORTON11 22:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I like Stephens Landing it's different. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:19, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

That does indeed sound nice, though for some strange reason it seems to invoke this image of a guy with a parachute to me. Anyone else gets flashes of eery images or am I finally going nuts? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 06:56, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, ____ Landing is waht we call places in America, a Major battle in the civil war called Shiloh is also called Pitsburg Landing. I guess the person that discovered it was from pitsburg or was called pitsburg and Landed there so that's the reasoning Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:34, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

I got that already, but even if I concentrate really hard on battle scenes I still see this guy with a parachute running around. Must be my imaginations own free will... Regaliorum (S Kitana) 15:08, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ehm.. Isn't Stephen's Headland a national park? --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:55, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

not that i know of Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

You guys are lucky. It's still being proposed. Let's say Stephen's Headland become a NP, except for Charleston and its immediate surroundings. I'd say that's a good solution. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 12:08, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Making Stephen Headland a park is not very useful. The only notable thing I can tell about it is that it has a Mediterranean climate, and it's not even the only in Lovia. I think we should be making more notable things, like the Emerald Highlands, national parks. And I believe it was only recommended, anyway. I don't see it on the official list. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:16, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Emerald highlands is already a national park. Just look it up. HORTON11 12:44, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but not Stephen Headlands. I want to cancel SH's near status as a national park. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:17, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Me too. That area has more value as agricultural terrain. HORTON11 14:04, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

That area has more value as agricultural terrain. Shall we call in some expert environmental economists to make a nice-looking report on that? Otherwise an army of tree huggers will probably put up camp on the spot. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:22, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

But what about the pineapples? Maybe we can compromise and make the park in the lower part of the peninsula.

By compromise You mean some kind of sustainable form of agriculture? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:30, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Most of the agriculture in the region would be mostly for national consumption, so the fields would not be very commercial, and there would be little fuel costs in transportation. HORTON11 14:34, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

They do grow hundreds of pineappels! lso we should protect some of the land around it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:21, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

As most of the pineapple growing is in the northern part, we should maybe set up a state park in the southern part. HORTON11 18:24, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Stephen's Headland should stay natural for most part. 'Cause if we keep on going on like this, we won't have any nature left within five years... --OuWTBsjrief-mich 18:34, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed but a growing population has to live somwhere. Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:37, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

@Oos- the agriculture in Stephen's headland is sustainabla, relatively small scale and for the local economy. Anyways, the village is not too big. HORTON11 21:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

@Marcus: not necessarily, we still have lots of unoccupied spaces in our other towns. @Horton: as long as SH stays an important natural region I'm pro, because of its different climate you could expect relatively rare plants there and we - CCPL - don't want those creations of God to be endangered. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 07:37, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

God wants everyone to do everything. Maximize profits, then don't. It would be great to raise taxes, but now god doesn't want it. God can't seem to make up his mind. In one country it seems God wants one thing but not in another? I think all parties who think "God is on there side" should get there act together. so let's stop with the "God wants it". Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:12, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

I believe OWTB is right on what a Biblical-Christian interpretation of the matter would look like: God created animal and plant life to be ruled by mankind, yet man has to look after the well-being of the planet he may rule. Exterminating species is a privilege to the almighty. So I'd say the CCPL would oppose initiatives that hurt the ecosystem in a substantial way. So would the CPL by the way, though for completely different reasons. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 14:36, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

@Oos- It would stay mostly natural. HORTON11 14:38, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

@Yuri: indeed :P @Horton: Alright, if this new town is located on the north side, we could still create a Southern Stephen's Headland National Park. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 08:07, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

If it only encompasses the southern half, that would be great. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's the idea :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:14, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Damn straight!Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:08, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I viewed that you are in charge of Sports and I would like to now if I can make a competion for woman's football.? JPeralta 23:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem with people starting leagues it's just i want them active and I want logos and the full nine yards, if it starts going inactive LSCA (the sports league) can shut it down. In any case if you can stay active and all that go ahead and have fun with it! Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:51, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what's full nine yards, but I can try and make logos but I am not very good. JPeralta 23:55, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well if your ever need a logo don't hesitate to ask =]. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:05, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it would be good if you can help. Would you like to help in the womens champoinship and help to get more clubs? JPeralta 00:15, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try, but this is your project so i'll try to help when i can. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:24, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think that FC Villanova is your's and I would like know if I can make a LFC Villanova woman's version? JPeralta

I'll create that, but that's it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:53, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

## CPL.nm in Congress

We need to pick a leader for our party its Congressional faction. Since (1) you go for the PM spot and (2) we have no other active members left, yours truly would like to be candidate. How do you feel about this? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:48, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sure it's fine. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

## Government

Hi, would you please make a government proposal? I'd like to have William Krosby be Secretary of Welfare and Percival E. Galahad be Secretary of Finance, and also, I think Majority Leader and Speaker of Congress should be the same thing. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:31, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Majority Leader is decided by our coalition. Speaker will be Horton, hopefully and i'll Propose you and Percival E. for those position. Marcus/Michael Villanova 01:03, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Speaker will be Horton. However, like in the United States, the majority leader will become the speaker of congress once their coalition is in majority and vice versa for the minority leader. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:30, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

So this way, instead of holding an election, the leader of the majority of congress becomes speaker, and no single-sided vote is needed. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:36, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, Those are two different positions. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:37, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

How about we change the law, so that like in the US they are sort of the same position. John Boehner became the Speaker, and he was minority leader before. Same for Pelosi. But I guess it is okay if we keep them separate. In that case, I thought Horton was the Majority Leader. Who is going to be Speaker? Maybe Jon Johnson or Alyssa C. Red? I think Alyssa. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

No there are different positions, Eric Cantor is majority leader, and john boner is speaker. So they are diiferent. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well that is true but when the minority becomes the majority the old minority leader becomes the speaker. They are technically different though. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 16:18, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I know so they are two different people. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Will everyone in Government be part of the Progressive coalition? I know that would be how it would work IRL, but please bear in mind that if you do that you'll have wrecked the fun of being part of Congress for Oos, TMV and me. Sure you guys won the election, so it's fair that you take the best posts, but it would be nice to give us something, even if it's as crappy as Energy and Environment. Secretaries have always come before from across the spectrum. --Semyon 20:32, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

That's probaly the worst thing about a parliament is that in minority is shut up and rarley allowed a voice, but luckily lovia ain't like that. I promised a while back in mine first term (Which lasted a month) i'd appoint more moderates and other parties. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:30, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. I even feel law proposals are to be discussed with the opposition as they might approach things in an alternative yet equally valuable way. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

More moderates, you say? As in: only moderates, as in: conservatives and rightists need not apply? The UNS is hardly moderate at all, Mike, you know that. And the CCPL is pretty conservative aswell. Does this mean there is no place for "the losers", as Semyon suggested? The UNS would be honoured to be able to take office. It will be our duty and privilage. The Master's Voice 06:12, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

If any party is allowed there would be no sense in making a coalition, would there? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:06, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

True. But if you give the small parties the most unimportant jobs, what's the big deal? Give us small functions so we cannot screw up big-time - which we won't, because despite our political differences, the right is not any less competent politically as the left. And isn't a site like this supposed to be fun? The Master's Voice 07:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, you are conservative. We don't want to give offices to conservatives, because then they are going to make things conservative, which we don't want. We want them progressive. Although Oos for the Royal Educational Aims Council would be good. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 11:55, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, All conservatives are alike, and that pisses me off. Mr.Voice Read the entire quote "i'd appoint more moderates and other parties" Boy Fox News, Republicans, And Lovian far-rights really know how to twist words. We'll all be represented. Period. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:51, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

We'll all be represented? So, the UNS will be given a function aswell? In that case, thank you very much! No, I am not trying to twist your words; I am perfectly capable of misenterpreting your words without a double agenda. The Master's Voice 13:27, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
"we don't want to give offices to conservatives because they are going to make things conservative" damm, if that ain't discriminating against peoples views I don't know what is, conservative ideas work just as well as liberal ideas if not better but lets not get into that as this is about representation. glad to hear about equal representation btw. Kunarian 15:24, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Good for you, but again you conservatives are all alike and very hipocritical. As PM I will not take any of this fake conservative and whiny bull shit. None of it. I'll be a comprimiser, a fair person, appoint you to a position or two, but you've seemed to forgotten YOU're NOT THE MAJORITY!!! So anything that comes from us is from a comprimise or out of the goodness of our hearts. And you'll whine and moan "It's not fair" yet when it's the other way or your in control oyu'll give jack shit. So here's your choice: Be fair, don't whine, join in Convos, and we'll comprimise. But i'll take no shit from no one, not even from my own side. This is a message to all conservatives. Welcome to Villanova Government II. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:37, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
So you're a tough guy, eh? A real hard-liner? I respect that in a politician. What I do not like is the way you lump us all together and say "all you conservatives are the same"... That is just not true, sir. Have I ever said all commies are the same? You can dislike a certain political spectrum without disliking every single politician on that particular political spectrum. I never said this was not fair. If this were the real world, we would have gotten nothing, and neither would you if we had won. However, this is not the real world. If it were, I'd take this shit much more serious. Right now, if you wouldn't give the conservatives and non-moderates shit, they'd simply leave. And trust me, that would be totally lame, like a one-party system. The Master's Voice 16:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Same can be said of liberals, all alike and very hypocritical, but funnily enough there's a difference between saying or typing something and the real thing. And fake conservative? I am a conservative. And all we have wanted so far is representation in the government like people have voted, we haven't whined, now you are acting childish. If we were in control? you would never let it happen so stop saying what we would do this or that if you know nothing of actual conservatives and make up fanciful ideas about us. We are being fair, we recognise that you are the majority and as the majority you should be acting like someone who has earned it and not attack us when we ask for a little bit of acknowledgement that we are here. but any ways lets just get on with it cause I'm fed up with someone who barely knows me telling me that I am not wanted because you THINK I am the same as the guy standing next to me, always twisting your words, hypocritical, fake, whining and uncompromising.
P.S. IRL conservatives are the majority and we also have a good amount of pull here in Lovia. Kunarian 16:18, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Marcus, they do have a point. Though I would not like to have radicals in major positions. I would support if a post went to CCPL (Oos) cause he would be a valuable addition to our government. HORTON11 16:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, cool down a bit. Also you, Marcus. Show us that our nation's leader is above us and not as low as a non-educated mediaevel peasant. Conservatives are not all the same, just like progressives. And indeed, you would expect a country with a progressive majority to have a progressive government, but still, conservatives can be given posts which are "subposts". A different point of view can be meaningful, because you gain new insight and that's exactly why progressive and conservative should work together in a way instead of fighting about nothing...

Another thing: conservative-progressive is a rather bad division. Read the party programs of UNS and CCPL and you'll notice there are hardly any resemblances. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Conservative and progressives working together is more like a necessary evil. If government was all (or even mostly) one-sided, we could see a tyranny of the majority. Give conservatives a few posts and they would act as a check. HORTON11 16:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why not put people in positions primarily based on their skills not ideology. Kunarian 16:49, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kunarian: because then it would be pretty worthless to even have elections, because it would not give you any advantage. You win, you choose. That being said, I think we should not forget we are not in a REAL country. We are in a FICTIONAL country. A game, basically. And if only a select few is allowed to play the game, those who are not will leave the game. Making the game boring, lame and predictable. I would not like such a game. And I would leave it. The Master's Voice 16:54, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
not really, if you are in top rule sure put your people first but if you know that there is a person from another group who is a better economist/strategist/etc. by far then put them in. And I agree about the fictional country and playing the game. BTW thats speaking about peoples characters, cause you aren't going to have a superhuman team in your party and will NEED to co-operate to have the peoples approval and a good working government. Kunarian 16:59, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
What if we created something like a shadow cabinet? HORTON11 17:02, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Now thats an idea! I would be for that and it would give those who are not "in power" a chance to be doing stuff with their politicians on a regular basis. Kunarian 17:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

But seriously? I keep saying...I'll give them a position!!! My Gosh! IRL you don't. If the conservatives did have the power they would have won. But they didn't. I said i'd give a post but what more do you want. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have always been very much a shadowy figure, haha.... I just hope to get a post, a function, some responsibility for my party to gain a reputation and some respect. To prove ourselves, and our worth. To show that the Far-Right does not deserve the bad reputation it has received by the rants of fools in the past years, who badly influenced our public reputation. For the first time in Lovia, the Far-Right has a place in Congress. We want to make our voice be heard, so that the people of Lovia can finally see what we are all about. If not, it surely would be a shame. But I trust Mr. Villanova won't abandon us. He's a nice guy. The Master's Voice 17:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
hear hear! Kunarian 17:15, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. In any case My government will be set up in the next week. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
I'd support a post for Oos and Breyev, but not replacing leftists and no far-right please. BTW, if you could the government set up, that'd be great. Also, Kunarian, as a note, in Lovia, liberal = libertarian, not leftist. leftist = leftist. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:48, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, TM... NOT! The Master's Voice 06:13, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
Just saying the truth. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 00:52, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

## My fiction

I've reviewed all of the rules that I could find, and honestly, I can't see how there is anything wrong with the military force that I established. So far, Lovia has no official military, or at least one that I could find. Can you please tell me what I had done wrong? Also, it wasn't a police task force. --
{C  Saturday, April 19 2014 (PST)  19:39, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well for starters the numbers are way off (there are only about 20000 people in Lovia), so a figure under 1000 would be more accurate. HORTON11 20:44, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Army is contested in Lovia and it even might be forbidden. You should ask something with knowledge of the law. Aged youngman 06:52, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

It indeed is. Remember how Donia had to downgrade his private militia to a sports hunting club to avoid troubles with the law? Anyway as a new user you didn't know so no harm done. Welcome by the way. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 09:13, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Um... okay. I would like you to know that I am not really new to fiction writing at all. I'll correct the military size thing, though. I know that this wiki is focused on politics, but are users permitted to generate content such as locations and branches of the government? For instance, what would Lovia be without a primary military? All nations have some method of defense, even if they aren't known for getting into global conflict. As for the Trinity Islands, my concept was just a set of islands reserved for exclusive usage by the government. And I wouldn't go as far as to say that my writing doesn't make sense... I'm not really offended. I'll read the articles that you requested that I read. I didn't know that they were considered fundamental readings, as they aren't under Wikination namespace. You should consider creating a fundamentals category. Thanks for your time, --
Saturday, April 19 2014 (PST)  15:42, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

It seems that you are activeso do you know if there are other Latinoamericans here? Or is just Americans? Granero

Hi, other althistory user! =] As Prime Minister I must say hi! Ummm no were pretty diverse! I'm american so is Horton and Timemaster. We have alot of Belgains, and Dutch. Different europeans, and even asians and JPeralta a sorta active user is Spanish. So please look around and have fun! Marcus/Michael Villanova 04:41, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

By Horton you mean Horton11, well he is my cousin. Granero

Hey man. Horton11 messaged me and suggested that I design a specialized Police branch as opposed to a military. He claims that there is no law against it, so I though that I should bring it up with you in order to avoid any problems. I'll begin the article now, and if there is a problem with Police, you can always delete it, if that's all right with you. Maybe my character could be head of the Police branch. Also, could create an Office of Naval Intelligence as a sub division. Also, in situations where a police division also serves as a primary defense force, they are referred to as military police. They do't naturally serve as a military, but would there be a problem if this is how I titled my article? One more thing, is there a work in progress templates for articles under construction? --
Saturday, April 19 2014 (PST)  15:12, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong but don't go overboard with naval stuff, we don't need that. Also look around at politics join a party or somthing you could also get some connections that way. Also it expresses your political views =]. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:44, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Thanks! I might take a little bit of time settling into my new home before entering the vast world of politics however. For now, I'm just the wealthy founder of Communipedia and Chief of the Lovian Military Police Christopher Costello! ; ) --
{C  Saturday, April 19 2014 (PST)  18:00, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

On neighborhood maps, are unspecified federal property squares claimable? Also, what do some of the colors mean? I think that I have the basic concept, but there are some colors I don't recognize by type. --
Saturday, April 19 2014 (PST)  19:07, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Check out Map Colors to see what they mean =]. Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:59, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

## soccer

Will the LSCA start a 2011 season? HORTON11 17:02, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yesh, soon. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:55, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ido feel it would be the right time as most other leagues are starting soon/have started. Also a while back you metioned something about a second division, so I was wondering if Galactic Hurbanova]] could join it. HORTON11 14:06, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh we will see i'm gonna set it up either today or tommorrow. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:43, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also one question, would you be willling to trade Thomas Relove for Andriy Shevchenko? HORTON11 15:53, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

No the Luca Union are close nit team but FC Villanova are always looking for trades. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:09, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Marcus, come vote in the second chamber please. We have an Abortion Regulations Act up for voting which disallows abortion in the second or third trimester, except in rape or medical reasons. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 11:05, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Where are you?? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:44, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll stay active but i'm keeping active on Fantasy Micronation wikia beacuse i like that theme better =]. I'm not voting on the abortion act not fair to either side if i wasn't active in talks and then vote for one side. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:22, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should just come back and be more active on Wikination. And on the abortion act, should vote pro if you have a light regulation view, not a no regulation or heavy regulation view. It's good but all those heavy-regulation people prefer no regulation above light regulation, which is kind of weird. o.o TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 00:40, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

We do not prefer no regulation. In fact I have just proposed one with better defined limits and rolid reasons for aborting. Also Marcus which date does the soccer season start? HORTON11 15:42, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

You seem to not be voting for the light regulation, when we actually have no regulation now, though. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 00:02, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

## Schism

You left the CPL? Well anyhow, now I can carry on as a one-man party. I already divided our MOTC on the 2011 Congress page. You still have to change their designation in the National Congressperson Order. No hard feelings but I left the Coalition/government too. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:42, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

No it's nothign agianst you or communism =] just i won't be as active so i don't want to party beinging blamed for slowness or other things. So in technicality i helping you =p but seriously. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:35, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it had one positive effect for sure: activity was sparked. You got my attention, so to say. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 05:14, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hey man, I looked at some of your videos on youtube, your pretty good at the guirtar and singing. Could you do more? -Sunkist- 03:05, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ha thanks. Marcus/Michael Villanova 09:37, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

## Newspapers

I've been talking to Horton just now, about newspapers. Remember the good old days when they were regulary updates and provided all Lovians with a good read and some sharp insights? Sometimes, I miss the good old days.
In any case, Horton is now writing for the National Post again and I remember you had a fairly nice newspaper yourself, Nova Times. LQ and TNCT are dead now, sadly enough, someone needs to jump in and fill the empty whole of Lovian media. Right now, there is only one other newspaper. By reviving NT, you'd instantly become one of Lovia's biggest media tycoons. How about you dust of Nova Times and battle it out with Horton, in a battle of the newspapers? That'd be great for activity here. Also, you might be able to stir the pot a little, maybe influence the publics opinion on yourself. LQ was very good in that, remember? I think there are many fine opportunities for you here. What do you say, Mike? The Master's Voice 18:43, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

We'll see but as PM i don't think I'll be writing per se but a family member =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:53, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Sure, that's fine. You can write as whoever you want, I just thought it would be a nice idea for you to show YOUR side of the story and defend yourself a bit (speaking as someone else, that is ). That's no more then fair given the shitload of criticism you've had to endure. Feel entirely free to rip on everyone and by all means, do not spare me. The Master's Voice 19:07, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Yes and I also want some competition in the news field. Just don't make it a one-sided rant like this one. HORTON11 20:10, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

## LLCP

Marcus, I think that instead of creating another new party (SPP) you should go back to the LLCP. It has a great name and a really great logo. I also think you are creating a few too many parties that now have 0 members, so you should rejoin some of the older parties you have created instead. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:55, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

There are other options too, I believe. Like make some of the older parties join SPP, either fully or in some kind of cartel formula. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 04:51, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
In thought I wanted to have a Lovian Labour Party but Horton blocked that. I asked him like months ago but whatever. Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:30, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
I don't mean create a new party, I mean go back to the LLCP. Maybe Horton could merge his Labour party into it. I can get all the old content back if you want. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 20:38, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Or revive an old party and join the guys you totally screwed back in 2010! The Master's Voice 20:50, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
No what i mean is maybe a Labour-SPP-LLCP merger to a Labour Party which I wanted in the first place. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:11, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
I think a Labour-SPP-LLCP merger to LLCP would be better, since LLCP has both a superior name AND logo (especially the logo). TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:17, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Why don't you join the SDP, and we could make a large SDP-SPP-Labour merger. HORTON11 21:23, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
SDP-SPP-LLCP into Labour merger to me is better. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:30, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Yes we could do that. Cause we do have all these social-democrat-labor parties which could just be united into 1. And I would agree to using the Labour names and logos, but only if we removed the "socialist party" from the logo. Its not really necessary. HORTON11 21:35, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
I think there should be a separate SDP and LLCP party, because they both have AWESOME logos. Then, the parties with the crappy logos and names (Labour) can not exist anymore. Perfect! (:P but seriously) TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I hope for a labour party but i'm gonna touch up that logo. @Horton - do you want to make the logo a different color or what? Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:48, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Why not use the Labor Party font and name, the rose from the SDP logo and the colors of the SPP, see how that works out. HORTON11 22:00, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Please, no. The current Labour party is just a copy of the UK Labour party. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:30, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

So are you still considering an LLCP instead of SPP? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:43, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
The diolauge stopped but i want it to start back up again =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:02, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, that's good. I hope Horton agrees to add the Labour MOTCS in. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:37, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Wow indeed. :P So can I remake the LLCP page? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:14, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
No, Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:17, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Darn. Can you go to the chat? link. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:18, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Where'd you go? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:37, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
@Marcus- I can't give you Labour alone, but I am willing to accept an SPP/SDP/Labor merger. HORTON11 15:43, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

## Sorry, sorry, sorry

pLease don't say nasty things about me and don't block me. I only try to edit on this wiki. I wanted to write an article about a group that was left out so far and I found one in the communist backyard. I don't want to hamr this wiki or all the work people have done in the past. I promised to Yuri he can help me with making kings work. Aged youngman 13:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

## Wow

You wrote somewhere I'm a hypocrite and that I said you are mostly inactive. I think there might be a misunderstanding, since I certainly can't recall saying something like that. I feel really bad actually 'cause of reading this. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 09:30, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well you've said to me too. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:40, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
I still don't understand. I'm pretty sure I never called you 'inactive' in a negative sense. I can't recall any mentioning on your activities, actually. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 12:56, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Saying that it was a "low level, slow government" agreeing leaving the government. I kinda got it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:12, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, this is so unfair. I left government because you left the CPL. How could I stay after such a schism? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 13:20, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm. if you want join our Labour coalition. I want a giant Leftest coalition. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
A coalition is fine with me, as long as we don't merge them together. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 08:05, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
Marcus, I (not Yuri) was probably the most critical when you left for political reasons, such as being excluded from government. Nothing you should take personal, just me (and some others) being an asshole, hoping for political gains. The glorious First Consul of Rome 08:18, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

La Blaca is dead, all commanders captured (except for Oos and Bucu) and the Republic of the Liberated Territories has officialy surrendered. It's over. The war will be over very, very soon now. The glorious First Consul of Rome 17:16, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

BTW: Honecker was captured a week ago. The glorious First Consul of Rome 17:18, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
That was a body double as you would say Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:24, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
Fine with me. If I can pull that off, so can you. ;) The glorious First Consul of Rome 17:26, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
Sweet. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:27, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
What about Koshkov, is he captured too? Or is he still at large? Regaliorum (S Kitana) 07:27, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Somethings tells me that this was inspired by Costello. XD
I am new to congress, and honestly, things aren't clearly organized, so was the act actually approved by congress?

I am not the Chief of the Federal Police, but the Assistant Commissioner. Also, non of my Coastal Police are actual, primary user characters yet, so do I apply? Cheers,--LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:12, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

## Crystalbeastdeck09 wtf...

I suggest you should rename your username via Special:Contact, if you haven't been renamed this account before. --JT (is not my name) 14:28, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Why?Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:57, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
Crystalbeastdeck09 is an odd name, especially for a PM... --JT (is not my name) 15:08, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
Come on, it is his user name. His character is the PM, and he is called Villanova which is totally acceptable. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 15:32, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
Ummm i've learned to ignore most things Jeff says. But here's the back story. I played yu-gi-oh! alot and was obessed with it so the first wikia I ever joined was Yu-gi-oh wikia but it still reminds me of the PAST!!! Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:40, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
There was a time when we all at least had a sympathetic attitude towards Japanese manga franchise. Regaliorum (S Kitana) 16:27, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
Tell me about it =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:28, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

## Soccer

Marcus are you going to start the 2011 soccer season? Cause I would like to see that happen. HORTON11 16:34, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

I would like that, but i ain't got the time. If so I just make some stuff up about the season aand grant the a team the winner. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:04, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Could I do it then, if you cant? HORTON11 21:38, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:55, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

## New Labor party

Elections are coming up, o maybe it's time to officially establish the Labor party we have been talking about. HORTON11 17:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! Let's officiate that. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:12, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Great. as a united front maybe we can capture a greater share of left wing votes. HORTON11 21:30, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Here's a starter page you guys can fill out: User:TimeMaster/Labour Party Good luck. Although, I would like one of the leftist parties to remain independent, perhaps the SDP, so we can avoid big blocs of MOTCs on the Congress 100 seats map. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:31, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

The SDP very much wants to join this, so they won't be out. But the Liberal Christian Party of Lovia is not part of it though. HORTON11 21:37, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah were allowing all parties that want to join can join. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I thinks its time to create the party, cause nominations have already started. HORTON11: 16:59, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you all just merge into the SDP, then? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:05, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

No the Labour Party is is the new party. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:19, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

## Court Case

I need a judge provided for a court case I will be filing against Granero's character and his characters private militia. This case will not materialise if you let his militia become the military forces for Lovia but if it doesn't then the case will go ahead as planned. Kunarian 11:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Kunarian is agitating this situation way too much. Perhaps congress should support the official establishment of the Special forces and Coastal police as divisions of the Federal Police, but we would need to modify them or at least the Special forces) to fit Lovian gun laws and to make them under congressional control. HORTON11: 19:50, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is better, compromise works, however they are still an illeagal militia until approved by Congress. Kunarian 20:04, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

What about making it a sleeper force, congress activates it during times of nned and temporarily disbands it until needed. Please hear me out, I want to compromise and hopefully you will too and stop going to court. I (and hopefully Granero too) would like to reform the Special forces as much as needed in order for full legal reconition. HORTON11: 20:07, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

No. The special forces cannot be the armed forces, they should be the special police forces, no further and 200 men is too much, demilitarise and I am happy. Kunarian 20:13, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

## Taxes

No, that didn't pass. We re-discussed it when Yuri was still active, but we never actually got the real numbers in. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:37, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

In that case i'll try again! we need this done. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:40, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

## You Decide 2012

You Decide 2012!

Hello, Crystalbeastdeck09, it's time to vote! If you already did, great, but here's some tips for everyone.

### Tips

• Don't vote for "abstentioners". PM Villanova has stated this in his outgoing campaign speech, and voting for them just makes everything worse. So don't do that. :P
• Take your time and decide carefully. Voting closes at January 21, so why fret?
• I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A BUDDHIST - No sectarian crap, swy. ;(

Respond here for anything about YD2012. --JT (is not my name) 16:49, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Errk Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:13, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Marcus, are you planning on giving some seats to the Progressive Conservative Party this year? If the PL-LDP-CNP coalition gets more votes than expected and Labour gets less, I would still like to keep the PCP in government so you can be part of it without Labour having 2 or 3 positions. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:59, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

It'll have like 2 seats at the most. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:58, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Also TM don't include the CNP just like the MCP they were really inactive. To the point they wouldn't show up for votes at all and never included input. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:16, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Kunarian is actually on vacation right now. . . and has given lots of input previously. Also, 2 seats should be enough but I really think some more would be realistic. We can split it, we should both do two seats for PCP each. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 19:31, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I was wanting to see if you'd like to attend Mass, and maybe settle in Charleston. We have a great beach! -Sunkist- 11:09, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Errr what? Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:17, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Your already Prime Minister. It seems corrupt that you'd also run for seats in your own Congress. :P --— Christopher Costello (PikapiChatWhat's up) 21:30, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Again: Errr What? Well it's election so I'm suppose to run. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:35, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

## Defence Minister

if you want to see the actual debate about it taking place go here http://nation.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:TimeMaster/Ministries#TimeOut Kunarian 21:57, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

I started later than Pikapi in the actual debate. Kunarian 21:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Thnx. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:01, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Damn guy, I must say your Spanish guitar looks nice :P Actually, it reminds me of my guitar, except for that mine already has a second hole next to the only hole that should be there :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 08:28, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

HA MINE TOO!!! It's beacuse it'ss reeaaaallalalalallalalyyyyyyyyy OLD!! Like from WWII it was my german grandmothers and is a family relic of sorts. But I also have Fender Acoustic, must better sound. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:09, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Well, mine is from the 60's or so :P Well, sometimes older guitars have better sound, but of course I don't know how yours sound :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 12:50, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Until recently my strings were from the 70's but they broke. New strings...still breaking in. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:41, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Hahaha :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 09:49, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Let's not hold a grudge from now on. K? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 00:11, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Will do TM Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:14, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

## Coalition

Seeming as I cannot stand my fellow coalition member, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind forming a coalition. It may seem backwards to have populists with socialists but believe me we can get past it. For instance, heres some points we can work on from your party platform:

• Limited immigration policy.
• Limited asylum.
• Tax implementation.
• Regulation for banks.
• Public school system.
• Taxes on unevironmentally friendly operations.
• Gay rights (we are not for or against, but we are for equality)
• Increase of Police Force numbers.
• Against UNLOR.
• progressive taxation. (dunno about this one yet but give me time, i still don't see its benefits over flat rate)
• progressive corporate taxation. (go ahead)
• Nationalisation of post office.

Its your choice, btw if you agree then we should look on co-operating with other parties, maybe LDP, and CCPL if you are feeling co-operative. Kunarian 13:15, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Looks okay, I just hope you stick to this and support the ideas set out. Otherwise I think we could work something out. Ummm We will be mainly focusing on Fiscal policy so as long as we keep a center-left or even progressive policy on this we should be okay. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:27, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Why do you want a coalition with populists? it is better to have a coalition that have parties that suit your party Pierlot McCrooke 13:29, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well Pierlot I left a request on your page, so if you want we could also form a coalition. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:31, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
whats wrong with populists? Kunarian 15:05, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well this is all that is setteled. CPL.nm and Labour have a coalition. CNP or any other party does not, if you want we will talk about this after the election is done. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:34, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Understood, besides looks like theres going to be a big three way congress this year, should be interesting. Hope we can still work together. Kunarian 20:00, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

No, and I was also one of the big reformers of it, alongside you, so we are about equal on it. You just have Bale as your MOTCs. Kim Dae-su has six (seven?) PCP MOTCs. You have one. Stop hating him and let him be in the party. Even if he was a rebel he surrendered peacefully, committed no war crimes, etc. There is no good reason to kick him out--all it does is weaken the PCP. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:08, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

In two weeks the party will have 1 member, Thanks to dae-su's inactivty. This isn't your party, Your being a dictator!!! Your the one going around thinking you know best reverting what people do. Stop being a dictator TM. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:11, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

So, I have a compromise. We will give the PCP two seats each. Let's just not give him a seat in the National Congressperson Order when Congress is inaugurated. Good? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:14, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

You can give two seats to the PCP, good, but Dae-su is still out of the party. So he can't be in congress as a PCP member, you can have him as an independent or w.e. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:16, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I want him to stay in the party, just to not be an MOTC. That way we will both get what we want: I want Kim to be in politics, and you want him to be out of politics. This way he can be in the party but not in Congress, so it's good for both of us. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

You got it wrong. I want him in politics, not in the party tho. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:20, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Why does it matter? The PCP is the only party he wants. There is NO problem if he's not in Congress. Stop expelling him, because you only have one MOTC for the PCP!! He has seven. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:22, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
He has six. If he cared so much he would be here, but no, he's inactive and started a war. I could care less if he's in love with the party. He didn't run for congress again to promote the party's values so, yeah he really doesn't care. And when he was in congress he didn't respect the party's views or the party beacuse he went out and started a war. The party isn't yours so you have no say here or in any one else's business. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:27, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I do have a say here, I was one of the major people who remade the party page from a copy of UK conservatives to its current state. You don't have total control over the party, and several people from all parties were rebels. Kim was just one of them. You irrationally hate him, you have said you think he's a weirdo with a hammer fetish several times. And when he was in Congress he was inactive, not "not respecting the party's views". So yeah, I don't see why this is a huge problem if he is technically the person who owns the party. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:29, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
All i have to say is, if he cared he would be protesting the boot from the party, but he's inactive and doesn't care so it doesn't matter. Oos locked the page. Good. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:33, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I still think it's unnecessary and stupid, but what the heck. And the ideology is fine, make it what I put it. Progressivism and Rockefeller is inaccurate. That makes it seem like Dem and Rep parties together. It's classical liberalism and social progressivism. PUT THE IDEOLOGY BACK! TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:39, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
And what is the problem with Kim's campaign poster?? Stop removing that too. Just STOP UNDOING. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:53, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

## Thanks

Hi, thanks for you vote in the federal elections! Wabba The I 17:42, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

## Warning

Please stop the fights with timemaster Pierlot McCrooke 17:43, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

maybe. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:17, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

## PCP

Would you consider giving them two MOTCs? It would be a bit odd to be popular and then go to one MOTC. Also, how about a CPL.nm/Labour/GPL/LDP/PL/PCP/CNP coalition? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 16:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Uhhh we shall see xD but i bet somthing can be worked out...How about a:

• Walden
• Labour
• CPL.nm
• LDP
• PCP
• GPL
• LAP
• PL

We would have exactly 52 just enough for a coalition Majority government. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:20, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

And CNP. They are socially progressive too. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 16:39, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well i think i also miscalculated but i'm looking for Economically progressive/center-left. Social issues are secondary right now. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:58, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know... I think Oos would be a good PM. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:33, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I Don't think that. He's too moral conservative for that.~I support marcus Pierlot McCrooke 17:36, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

okay Well i see then..... Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:34, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

## Natsionalistiski Parti 'Oshenna‎

It makes sense to say the party now focusses on local politics instead of national politics. It makes sense that they are not elected to Congress (they did not run) and that Alzhbeta ran for governor. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:15, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed but like all lovian political things it coudl change in the next election xD Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:38, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha, sure :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 10:21, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

## apart/a part

Marcus, apart's definition is "not a part of". "a part" and "apart" are antonyms. Make sure to get the space in. You usually mean to write "a member of" when you write "apart", but since you write "apart", you are actually writing the opposite meaning. So keep that in mind when you're writing articles from now on, and write "a part" or "a member" instead. Thanks. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 19:22, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

-__- Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:00, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Please, don't bring back the LCP!!! The PCP needs another congressman. If you really want a communist, why not CPL.nm??? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:03, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'll keep it the way i like, plus the LCP is an old, even more, hard nosed communist party. It's nice to have some nostaliga. Plus PCP is just for thomas bale xD Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:09, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well, LCP had a clear disbandment. You already revived Walden, and PCP needs more MOTCs to be realistic. I think LCP's disbandment is firmly put into history and it shouldn't be revived. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:52, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Dude, you can donate members to the PCP too. Marcus/Michael Villanova 02:19, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

## Magical duty calls

O wise one help me to persuade he who possess magical powers for sharing them with me and the world. I am not interested in power only in magical aid to those in need of love. You are a man of great persuasion technique. Amirite?

Dude, WTF????? Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:16, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

## Archive

PLEASE archive your page. Otherwise, when my computer crashes editing, I will send the repair bill to you. :P --Semyon 07:52, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

## Supreme Court Judge

Hey, could you consider nominating a character to become on of three Supreme Court Judges here? (btw: if you plan to bring a court case in the near future, please don't do it, because that causes problems.) Thanks. :) --Semyon 10:13, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Nahh not my forte. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
So you can still sue someone's ass off, eh? Smart move. The glorious First Consul of Rome 14:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Definitely his forte. :P TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 14:04, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
What's the issue with the court cases. The way I see it, if we can't sue people, what's the point in having judges. HORTON11: 14:10, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Not a problem, just his forte. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 14:20, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Sure you can sue people you just choose not to. The glorious First Consul of Rome 13:59, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
Past experiences've learnt us that judges ain't no good :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 17:39, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
We now have one that knows Kungfu... Jefferson, eat your heart out! The glorious First Consul of Rome 21:14, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
Our judges tend to be a bit eccentric :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:47, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

## Second Chamber

Can you vote on the Weights and Measures Act, please (found in Forum:Second Chamber)? It's just short of the fifty Pro votes needed to pass. Thanks. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 20:29, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

## Football transfers

Hello, Marcus, I'm looking for players for the Brunanter club Charlestown FC. Does Scotland FC by any chance have any players up for transfer? See you around. Echocho 20:37, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

You could be forgiven for having forgotten, but you're the governor of Sylvania. :P We'd like to do a census, so if you have time (it's not urgent) could you make a page like this one or this one for Sylvania? You can just make the numbers up, bearing in mind that they have to be similar to last years multiplied by 10. Alternatively, I or very possible Dimitri will do it, if you prefer. :) --Semyon 08:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

## Census in Sylvania

You could be forgiven for having forgotten, but you're the governor of Sylvania. :P We'd like to do a census, so if you have time (it's not urgent) could you make a page like this one or this one for Sylvania? You can just make the numbers up, bearing in mind that they have to be similar to last years multiplied by 10. Alternatively, I or very possible Dimitri will do it, if you prefer. :) --Semyon 08:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'll do it tomorrow, again finals today xD Marcus/Michael Villanova 09:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Good luck! :) --Semyon 09:55, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Väöl hèrvólg jóng/Good luck! :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 09:58, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

## Dear Governor

I think we could better demolish some of the apartment buildings in Noble City. I propose to demolish the following (near) empty apartment buildings:

1. Wikicity Building (Downtown)
2. November Beach Apartments (King's Gardens)
3. Princess and Carpe Diem (Mandarin Village)

And put any displaced inhabitants in the Livonian Apartments, which is also near empty, but would be filled then. Imagine what we could do with the space which comes available from these currently useless buildings. Apartment buildings can be considered one of the least attractive forms of living and hardly any users want to buy an apartment. Time to use the demolition hammer I'd say :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:41, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Oos, just noting here, I like the Wikicity Building. Perhaps we could move it elsewhere instead. Though I agree, this space is needed for other buildings. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:59, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the Wikicity Buildings looks more like an industrial complex than an area people actually live... We could turn it into something else though and move it out of the Downtown area. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 15:06, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
Is your only reason for this being that the buldings are empty so you wanna make space for other bulidings? In which case, even though i'm Labour i don't think interfering with business's rights would be okay, and unless the owner themselves wanna knock it down, then shure knock it down. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:49, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, yóu are the owner... The buildings are property of the State of Sylvania (in not a single of the pages an owner is stated, thus the local government is the owner). As a governor you should think of this as also a prestige situation. Empty apartment buildings are not looked after; they decay. If you want a decaying sky-line, it's up to you. We are in need of more housing areas people actually want to buy, especially in our capital. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 15:54, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
One question, could I merge November beach with the NC apartments? So the tenants and picture of the NC apts. would be moved to Nov. Beach and the lot at 3 Discovery would be opened up. HORTON11: 16:00, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
And also, people seem to prefer luxury apartments in the capital. Tenement and rental apartment are better suited for suburban or industrial/working neighborhoods. HORTON11: 16:03, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
I'm pro. Well, I think that if the apartment pages would be updated and made more attractive, they'll surely be sold faster. And they wouldn't remain empty for three to four years... --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:25, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
Not knowing that they were public property i agree, go ahead. Marcus/Michael Villanova 01:22, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, Carpe Diem and Princess are gone. @TM: if you have any plans for Wikicity, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll have to get the TNT loads ready :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 15:55, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should move it to Transcity, or perhaps the western end of Orange Gardens. Something industrial that borders a residential neighborhood. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:59, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
Well, Orange Gardens technically does not exist (yet). So, unless you want to make work of that neighborhood, we could move it to Transcity :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 10:55, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
Orange Gardens doesn't exist? It looks like it to me. What do you mean? Anyway, I think we should move it to the convenient empty residential lot in the southern side of Transcity. I'll take care of the move and history change. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 22:31, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
It is still in the user space, see: User:SjorskingmaWikistad/Orange Gardens. Therefore, it does not exist (yet) IRWikiL. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:51, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
Oh dear. I meant Mandarin Village. Sorry for the confusion. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 19:45, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
Ow yeah, that would've been another option. Transcity is fine too though :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 11:49, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

## Udaho

Your Udaho wikination has been vandalised kind of badly by anons (well, two pages have been, at least). I thought you might find that useful to know, since, for example, the page Udaho is currently one of the worst vandalised pages I have seen, and seem to have been vandalised by at least two different vandals (since they're all anons and the IP addresses are all different, it's hard to tell) and is almost illegible with gibberish, propaganda and swearing outnumbering legitimate contents, and Udaho City has also been messed up. 77topaz (talk) 07:50, September 15, 2012 (UTC)