Talk:International Wiki Organisation

Inselöarna did not yet exist in 1902 :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 09:05, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I find that rather hard to believe, but no matter, I'll change the article. :P --Semyon 09:14, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

[1]: Den 16 juni 2012 blev Inselöarna självständiga från Sverige. Don't think you need that translated :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 09:18, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

We should make the independence date earlier Pierlot McCrooke 09:19, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, that is a slight problem. At least they were discovered though, so perhaps a small group of freedom fighters could have sent a representative. :P --Semyon 09:27, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Actually I like it. All nations tend to exist for a long time, Inselöarna is breaking the law of habit :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 09:28, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Harvia became independent in 2010, so they're the the real trendsetters. :P --Semyon 09:43, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha, you're right :P I totally forgot Harvia is out there too :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 15:45, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

It's a shame that Harvia is dead, cause it seemed like a good wikination. HORTON11: • 16:43, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Minorities

I had an idea for an IWO body at my notepad here, feel free to check it out. HORTON11: • 12:51, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

You should add the native Mäöreser minority, the Scottish minority in Mäöres, and the Eadslandic minority. --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 08:10, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. I don't know much about them so could you help me out with this? HORTON11: • 15:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

And BTW please add Harvia, it's already been accepted. HORTON11: • 15:09, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Brunant President and I, foreign affairs minister of foreign affairs have agreed on Harvia becoming a full member? Can I sign the document now? Happy65 ^{Talk CNP} 15:22, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Libertas

Why is Libertas not a member? They also will participate the IWO Games. Wabba The I (talk) 09:13, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Libertas is an observing member, isn't it? 77topaz (talk) 09:20, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 09:28, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Why not a full member? Wabba The I (talk) 10:45, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Too inactive. Happy65 ^{Talk CNP} 12:33, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

How how! You are the only user on Harvia too! Wabba The I (talk) 16:50, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

No, that's not it. Libertas never made an official request to join IWO. First, the national legislation of Libertas should vote pro on joining IWO and then the other members can decide on whether to include Libertas as a full member. --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 16:58, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

I think the national legislation will that of course! Wabba The I (talk) 17:56, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Harvia has 4+ users active. Me, Topaz, Pierlot (recently rejoined), Horton11 (sometimes), etc. Happy65 ^{Talk CNP} 18:00, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Strasland

Can Strasland be a member?What do I need to do?MMunson (talk) 02:57, February 26, 2013 (UTC) The webstie link is http://strasland.wikia.com.MMunson (talk) 03:28, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well, for a start, create some more articles. 100 is the benchmark for IWO membership, I think. 77topaz (talk) 03:40, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

That's for full membership. It can be an associate member, like Inselöarna was when that wiki didn't have 100 articles yet. 4kant,6^FRÅGOR??? 06:38, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, Strasland can be an associate member. We haven't decided on an article threshold for that. However, I prefer to wait a little longer to see whether it remains active. Full membership can be applied for when the wiki has 100 articles and a functioning user-based government. --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 10:21, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Libertas has not a user-based government. Wabba The I (talk) 15:15, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yes it has. Remember you, 4kant and me voting on the new election law? --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 15:36, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. It has. Than Libertas may be full member! Wabba The I (talk) 15:38, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well strasland only has one active user, and me and 4kant have only done minor edits there. HORTON11: • 15:39, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Number of editors isn't relevant. Activity, contents, and politics are however. --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 15:43, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Okay! But remember:

1. Libertas is the oldest of all.
2. Libertas is the biggest in population of all.
3. Libertas is the biggest in area of all.
4. Libertas has nearby 2,000 pages.

Wabba The I (talk) 15:46, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

True, but if it doesn't apply for membership, it won't be a full member. All we need is three things:

1. Libertas's Parliament should apply for membership (50% majority)
2. All other full members of the IWO should also vote pro.
3. The documents should be translated to Dutch and should be signed.

--OuWTB^sjrief-mich 15:49, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

I have put it in the Parliament. --Wabba The I (talk) 16:01, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Number of editors is relevant, Oos. How can you expect one person to have lots of activity and "a functioning user-based government". HORTON11: • 17:42, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't this section for discussing Strasland? :P 77topaz (talk) 19:03, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

@77topaz: yes, but the requirements for Libertas are the same as for Strasland :P @Horton: that's very well possible. Mäöres was pretty much built up by me and it has about 500 pages :P Okay, the government bit might be slightly problematic, but if MMunson elects himself as only member, it is still democratic, user-based, and functioning if he accepts laws by vote :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 07:54, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

The Parliament voted pro. Wabba The I (talk) 13:44, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'll inform the Mäöreser landjszaal. Wabba, can you make sure all the other full members vote as well? --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 13:59, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

How? Wabba The I (talk) 16:51, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Why does Wabba have to inform the other wikinations? 77topaz (talk) 19:15, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Can we still make Strasland a member?MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 01:40, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Some sort of vote will probably be required for that. Also, have you given up on Pintona or not? 77topaz (talk) 02:24, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Polynesia?

Can Polynesia be added once it is finished? --Quarantine Zone (talk) 03:13, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Only work on fictional countries, real ones are for wikipdeia.MMunson (talk) 03:29, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

He means the country at rightist.wikia.com, MMunson. @QZ: I'm not sure it would be eligible as it's not fully democratic. 77topaz (talk) 03:39, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

How is it not democratic? --Quarantine Zone (talk) 03:52, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

And the name is of a regon in the Pacific Ocean, not a country.MMunson (talk) 04:12, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

@QZ: Only a rightist party/politician can be in power. :P @MMunson: This is a wikination called "Empire of Polynesia". 77topaz (talk) 05:49, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

No, anyone can be on it. The Constitution doesn't outlaw progressive or leftist parties. The Constitution is biased to some degree though. --Quarantine Zone (talk) 13:07, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

For now, I'd say no. The wiki doesn't even have a page on the country itself.. I don't think that the country can be rejected for not being fully democratic. Don't forget: Mäöres is a full member, while in its constitution some clear anti-LGTB things are stated, and the government is probably the least-democratic of all active wikinations :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 10:23, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well, if the GM comes into power, those things will be changed. :P 77topaz (talk) 19:01, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

You got plans è :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 20:28, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Of course, a progressive party can't let discrimination remain in the constitution, of all things. :P 77topaz (talk) 21:03, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, when Dimitri was leader of GM, he actually voted pro on similar laws :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 08:10, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Really? :o 77topaz (talk) 08:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes :P --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 08:24, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Again Libertas

So now Lovia, the Insel Islands and Libertas voted pro for Libertas becoming a full member of the IWO, I added a new bill in the Congress of Brunant. You can vote now. I want to add a bill in Mäöres but I asked where I need to do that and on the Forum:Parliament of the Harvian Island, I even can not contribute because it is a protected page! Wabba The I (talk) 20:30, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Mäöres has already voted pro :) --OuWTB^sjrief-mich 07:44, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Good. In Brunant there is a voting now and in Harvia not. Wabba The I (talk) 08:32, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Strasland again

Can we make Strasland a full member now because we have more thsan 100 pages and its also a part member.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 05:37, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

You'd need to start votes for that in the congresses of the current members, since we haven't got the IWO Congress thing yet. 77topaz (talk) 08:34, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. --OuWTB 09:01, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Can Traspes join IWO? Traspes (talk) 05:41, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well, for full member status, it first needs to reach 100 pages, and then a series of votes needs to be held across the wikinations which are already members. 77topaz (talk) 06:29, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

We are close, now it has 83 pages. Traspes (talk) 21:45, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, we have more than 100 pages already in Traspes. Traspes (talk) 06:17, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

About Traspes

Is Traspes already a member? I gave messages for votes and we have more than 160 pages. Traspes (talk) 03:54, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm not sure all of the votes have passed yet. 77topaz (talk) 04:57, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Whan can they pass the votes? Traspes (talk) 21:24, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well, for one thing, the Lovian vote currently has 20 votes for, and it needs 50+ votes for to pass. The elections ongoing right now might mean the vote'll be delayed and you might have to re-propose the vote again after. 77topaz (talk) 21:44, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

In the other countries I also asked to do a vote and they got a lot too. Traspes (talk) 02:20, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

1. Did we approve Strasland and Traspes and should they be added to the page?
2. Are we going to set up the IWO council? HORTON11: • 21:04, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Is Traspes already included? Traspes (talk) 03:46, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

I believe Lovia still has not voted pro Traspes. --OuWTB 09:01, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

So please can you vote? Traspes (talk) 01:24, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hello everybody, can you vote to include Traspes?? Traspes (talk)

The legislation in many countries seems to have fallen inactive. If nobody reacts with a contra on this page within a week, consider Traspes included in the full members. --OuWTB 10:38, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

How about if instead of having to go through many legislatures, we simply finally establish the IWO council and have that vote on new members and other programs. HORTON11: • 14:26, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Harvia seems rather inactive though, so I'm not sure it can deliver councillors. --OuWTB 15:07, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Don't you remember that happy renounced Harvia's membership? Well I'm sure that we can get them for Lovia, Libertas and the others. It would be much easier than having to deal with the bureaucracy of every wikinational government. HORTON11: • 15:33, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a really good idea! Letting new members enter the IWO takes too long, its time we set up an IWO Congress Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 18:16, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thank you! Is there other things I have to do, members of the council?? Something else? Traspes (talk) 23:21, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

@Traspes: Have you translated the declaration to Spanish already? @Council: Very good :) Horton, could you assemble the country leaders? --OuWTB 07:17, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by ountry leaders? The head of state, or head council member per country? HORTON11: • 14:53, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Did we already decide on the head council members then? :P --OuWTB 04:15, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Not as far as I recall :P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 05:54, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Or by assemble the country leaders, do you mean like some sort of meeting, or summit, or convention? HORTON11: • 18:59, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

That'd be easier è :P --OuWTB 13:03, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

K. Seeing as this talk is about Traspes, how about we call it the "Alcacer Summit" or something, and hold it later this month? We'll get the heads of state to formally declare the IWO council open (perhaps a few speeches) and by that time we should have set up the IWO council (do the page ,appoint two people per country, etc.). Just an idea if anyone is interested, perhaps make the two council members from the two largest parties in each wikination. HORTON11: • 13:31, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good :) --OuWTB 14:10, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, we'll go with that. I'll add a specific section below for that. HORTON11: • 14:12, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Ok! Traspes (talk) 14:37, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. http://es.traspes.wikia.com/wiki/Usuario:Traspes. Traspes (talk) 16:09, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Then your work is done I guess :P --OuWTB 04:15, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

In the future, if we set up a council, then I think they alone should be able to add new countries to the IWO... doing it in individual countries is too time consuming! Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 13:07, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's the idea :P --OuWTB 14:10, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

IWO Council

Ok, we need to settle a few things on the IWO council (officially Council of the Organisation) before creating it. It will consist of two members per country; they can be chosen from the two largest parties in government (those with most seats) or simply as independent people.

Now what do you think we should about the location of the Council? Should we rotate among full members it or keep it fixed? As for the Secretary-General, perhaps we should elect them for six-month terms. HORTON11: • 14:20, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

And one last thing, given that English is the lingua franca among active wikination users and IWO participants, it makes sense to have all IWO proceedings in all wikinations (summits, rotatiion of council host, etc.) be conducted in English. They can be translated to the nation's language afterward, but it would be much simpler to allow all members to debate, comment etc. in a language they don't have to google translate. HORTON11: • 14:24, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's a good idea. Beacuse for the Alcacer Summit, a lot of people don't speak Spanish. Traspes (talk) 14:44, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

About rotating the location of the council, I think it's a good idea or we risk having one of the IWO's more active nations becoming much more powerful and having more decisions made there than the smaller nations Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 15:52, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

And besides, the IWO declaration also says we should rotate :P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 15:53, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

How about rotating it with the presidency? If the first elected president is say, from Libertas, then the council can be hosted in Libertas, and so on. And here's the link to the first IWO summit. HORTON11: • 15:58, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Do we really need a presidency? --OuWTB 09:40, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

Well secretary-general, but it seems so. HORTON11: • 13:22, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

I still do not think it is necessary to have a secretary-general. This may just show dominance by a member state (probably Brunant). Happy65 ^{Talk CNP} 17:08, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

There's nop way a country can be dominant if they all have the same amount of seats. Anyway the post of Secretary-General is engrained in the IWO charter. HORTON11: • 19:22, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

Council members

Ok, full members should add the representatives to the council below:

• Brunant: Aina Sarria (User:Traspes)
• Insel Islands:
• Libertas:
• Lovia: Amir Zenadi (horton11)
• Mäöres: Sjeng Lavieële
• Traspes: Andrea Ortega López (User:Traspes)

Be sure to do this quickly so we can hold elections for a secretary-general from here. HORTON11: • 17:01, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Also see this. HORTON11: • 17:11, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

About Prasia

As most of you probably know, last year I started my own wikination, Prasia, which has now reached a "grand" total of 70 pages. I was wondering if Prasia could join the IWO as an observing member and attend have its PM the Alcacer Summit, as it has not yet reached the full requirements for IWO membership. Thank you! And here's a link to the site... http://prasia.wikia.com/wiki/Prasia_Wiki Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 16:31, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Right now associate member is the equivalent to an observer, but it'd be ok to have Prasia. HORTON11: • 16:59, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, if it is okay with the new IWO council, then Prasia would be honoured to be an associate member until it meets the full entry requirements Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 19:02, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

The SAI would also be an associate member, since it has 72 pages, right? 77topaz (talk) 02:59, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

It certainly can :) --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 06:36, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

In that case, can Prasia (and the Southern Arc Islands) be added to the IWO list as associate members? Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 09:31, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Prasia is more than halfway there to full-member size and is well developed. HORTON11: • 15:33, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Prasia

Can Prasia join the IWO? Frijoles333 TALK 19:28, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

We've got almost 150 pages, so we do meet that requirement Frijoles333 TALK 19:29, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

I suppose it could :P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 19:33, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ostrobe

I know it is too early, but can Ostrobe join the IWO after I reach the page limit, and I get a user base (which is NO ONE!) Lancededcena (talk) 16:23, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a link to the site for us? --OuWTB 16:52, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Its 18 pages, it is too early, but here it is   Lancededcena (talk) 16:58, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Give us a sign when it meets all the criteria for inclusion. --OuWTB 09:40, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Its not always easy if there is one member doing all the work, but thanks! Lancededcena (talk) 14:57, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

You might like to establish links with other wikinations before joining the IWO, perhaps opening embassies and creating people, pages, events between Ostrobe and other nations. HORTON11: • 16:10, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

A population of around 15 million seems too much. Happy65 ^{Talk CNP} 18:34, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be 1,5 at most. --OuWTB 17:03, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

IWo passport/currency?

What are your thoughts on having an IWO passport (like the WU) or a single common currency? HORTON11: • 16:55, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure I would support that, however, I think we should definitely have an IWO Council, with members from each member state, to help forge closer relations between wikinations, and to open up dialogue about issues such as single currency and passports. In fact, I've had a few ideas about an IWO council... Frijoles333 TALK 17:08, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not in favour of an IWO passport. I do, however, support the idea of a single currency under the condition that the designs are good and there is discussion about it. --OuWTB 09:39, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Realistically, the single currency is a terrible idea, but wikilistically I support it, at least if it has a really stupid name. :P --Semyon 18:09, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

I'd like a good name, though it'd be the design that would be a big plus for doing so. Perhaps we should hold a contest to design the IWO notes. HORTON11: • 18:27, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Cettatie

Any chance of having Cettatie as an associate member? We're 65% there to full membership already. HORTON11: • 20:08, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

I surrpot that. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 02:49, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sure :) --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 08:55, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Me too :) --OuWTB 10:42, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, great. HORTON11: • 15:38, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Juliana

Juliana already has 122 pages. So, can we add Juliana to be a member. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 22:34, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, though the current members will first have to vote pro. --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 06:40, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

I'd support Juliana, though don't know if we'd have enough active legislature atm. HORTON11: • 12:51, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

Everybody?? You think it's okay now for Juliana. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 00:56, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

All countries should vote pro :o --OuWTB 08:46, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

Can you vote?? I really want it that Juliana can be included. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 01:49, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Is Slovenian an official language? In that case, Forum:Second Chamber/IWO Declaration should be translated. --OuWTB 09:26, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Vote on Juliana

• Brunant: Pro [2]
• Lovia: Pro Forum:Second Chamber
• Mäöres: Pro [3]
• Insel Islands: Pro sv:Forum:Landsting#Juliana som full IWO-medlem
• Traspes:  Pro Aceptar Juliana a la OIW

Dear nations, please vote in your legislatures whether Juliana can become a full member, and place a link to the vote. --OuWTB 09:24, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Inselöarna tends to do such things very quickly :P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 13:54, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, cuz they ain't got nuffing else de do :o --OuWTB 14:03, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

:P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 14:03, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Could Traspes and Inselöarna please provide the link to the discussion? Otherwise, it is invalid. --OuWTB 08:24, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! :) --OuWTB 15:21, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Pasimi?

Pasimi is the wikination I'm working on, at pasimi.referata.com. It's not finished yet though. UnfazedEveryman [-] ^{Annoy Me} 06:13, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Is a wikination ever finisht though? :o --OuWTB 09:29, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Of course not :P --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 13:55, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Phaluhm Phoueck

Hey, can we please apply for IWO membership? Lancededcena (talk) 17:50, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

You should probably wait for a response before adding it to the page. :P 77topaz (talk) 03:23, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Klijef :P --UnfazedEveryman ^{Annoy Me} 04:02, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Also, I think I'd currently be opposed to giving it membership because some of the wikicode maps are so obviously copy-pasted (e.g. Nuevert has street names from Hurbanova). :P Also, the main country page cannot be edited (and, according to it, country's a member of TPP). :P 77topaz (talk) 05:18, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Fixed now. But we need someone to change all the streetnames or make brand new map. Lancededcena (talk) 05:48, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Using Sliras-like maps, making new maps would be easy, and multiple users here would be able to help you with that, such as me, 4kant and UE, and others. Creating Lovia-style maps out of scratch would indeed be more difficult, but you could ask Oos for help; he's experienced with that style of maps. 77topaz (talk) 05:57, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

OK, then, I'll do it. :P --UnfazedEveryman ^{Annoy Me} 08:20, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Can we now apply for full membership? Lancededcena (talk) 17:17, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yes. --OuWTB 17:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Does anyone support us? Can you ask the guys at all of the other wikinations to vote for or against us?  Lancededcena (talk) 18:29, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

You should definitely campain in order to convince the other nations to be accepted. --OuWTB 09:10, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

1) ASEAN and ACD - Joining the IWO will allow your buisness and economy grow in to South East Asian countries and other Asian Countries between the ACD.

2) Pacific Trade - Joining the IWO will improve your Asia-Pacific Trade as we are a great trade route from Asia-Pacific to the Americas.

3) Resources - We have a vast supply of oil, gold and copper. We also plant bananas, pineapples and mangos, and we ship them off to other countries.

4) Relations with other Asian countries - Since we are a member of APEC, ASEAN and ACD, your country can benifit on making trade deals, starting new companies etc.

5) Economy - We are one of the richest countries, due to oil, gold and other sucessful companies like Air Phaluhm, PTV and the Kaliybatan Corporation, which owns buisnesses such as Pham-Su. FlyPhoueck, Themn, Tempest and Liberalty Bank.

Hows this? Lancededcena (talk) 14:58, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, bring out the news :P --OuWTB 17:23, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Vote on Phaluhm Phoueck

• Brunant:  Pro
• Lovia: Didn't vote yet
• Mäöres: Pro
• Insel Islands: Didn't vote yet
• Traspes:  Pro
• Juliana: Didn't vote yet
• Libertas:  Contra

I vote Pro FictiveJ (discuss) 09:43, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Patriam votes Pro. (I know we can't vote to get you member of the IWO, but we support you!) Niels20020 (Talk) 13:41, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Patriam

Can Patriam become a member? Niels20020 (Talk) 10:36, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Population is 7,5 million. Our limit is somewhere around 1 million inhabitants, so it's too large. --OuWTB 12:15, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

It's now 2,2 million, is that okay? Niels20020 (Talk) 15:03, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Still one million too big. --OuWTB 16:50, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, it will be 1,2 million, then Niels20020 (Talk) 16:58, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Very good. You are an associated member now. In order to become a full member, all the other countries must agree on Patriam joining. I will make sure they are all notified. --OuWTB 17:04, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Nice! Can I add it on the page? Niels20020 (Talk) 18:08, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Libertas votes contra. Wabba The I (talk) 18:22, October 7, 2015 (UTC) (I'm using this account as Wabba  The I, the only one responsible for Libertas)

Why? Niels20020 (Talk) 18:27, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Vote on Patriam

• Brunant: Didn't vote yet
• Lovia: Didn't vote yet
• Mäöres: Pro [4]
• Insel Islands: Didn't vote yet
• Traspes:  Pro [5]
• Juliana: Didn't vote yet
• Libertas: Contra

Contra I think, personally, the limit should be 3 million, as a compromise. Also, Patriam isn't really developed yet. FictiveJ (discuss) 21:55, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

We have to take into account the other wikinations. A nation with 3 million inhabitants would be almost as large as the other nations combined... --OuWTB 10:44, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Why is Libertas's vote invalid? 77topaz (talk) 19:26, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Presumably because it wasn't democratic. --Qytokant^FRÅGOR??? 05:37, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

So does that mean that the Libertas vote for Phaluhm is also invalid? Lancededcena (talk) 06:12, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you should have waited for a response before striking the other vote out. :P If Libertas's vote was invalidated because of Wabba being the only voter, then Traspes's vote should be invalidated because of Traspes being the only voter. :P 77topaz (talk) 09:09, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Traspes is valid, because there is a link to the discussion. The fact that Traspes was the only one responding, has to do with him being the only active contributor. --OuWTB 10:05, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

But Wabba is (apart from me, occasionally) the only active contributor in Libertas, as well. :P 77topaz (talk) 19:20, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Niels seems to be active there too :o Besides, Wabba's just voted contra cuz he no longer likes IWO. --OuWTB 11:24, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe?

As there is a lot of activity around this International Wiki Organisation, I have a proposition.

Full members (all represented by a representative in the IWO Council):

• Brunant: Aina Sarria
• Juliana: TBD
• Lovia: Amir Zenadi
• Mäöres: Sjeng Lavieële
• Insel Islands: TBD
• Libertas: Charlotte Holten
• Traspes: Andrea Ortega López

Associate members:

• Adlibita
• Cettatie
• Kemburg
• Patriam (current candidate to join)
• Phaluhm Phoueck (current candidate to join)
• Pintona
• Prasia
• Reptin
• Southern Arc Islands
• Strasland

Wabba The I (talk) 12:32, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

The members list is the same as the status quo, actually. The only differences are that Cettatie, Kemburg, Pintona and Strasland are not yet associate members, but nor are they very active at the moment. 77topaz (talk) 01:51, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

What is the exact reason not to grant Patriam and Phaluhm full membership? --OuWTB 11:19, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Technically, because not all the votes have been held yet. Non-technically, because especially Patriam consists mostly of stubs. 77topaz (talk) 22:46, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

IWO organisations

I have some other organisations that I would like to propose

• IWO Free Trade Agreement (IWOFTA)
• IWO Games
• IWO Council

Lancededcena (talk) 21:24, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

We already tried IWO Games in 2013, but that didn't work out. And Horton's working on an IWO council at the moment. 77topaz (talk) 04:31, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Most powerful IWO nation?

In your opinion, what is the most powerfull IWO nation (including associate members)? To break it down, the ten I picked is:

1. Libertas
2. Lovia
3. Brunant
4. Traspes
5. Juliania
6. Phaluhm Phoueck
7. Maores
8. Insel Islands
9. Cettatie
10. Patriam

Thats my opinion. Lancededcena (talk) 16:13, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

"Powerful" is a very vague word. What do you mean? 77topaz (talk) 22:44, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

In terms of military strength and influence. Lancededcena (talk) 22:47, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for placing Libertas on top, but I do not think you have to make a list like this. We are one organisation and together, we are strong. OOO-21xO-OOo 18:48, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

My Ideas

Idea 1 - New Logo Idea 2 - A  flag of unity

Idea 3 - A regional anthem

Idea 4 - A motto: We are one, we are unity (feel free to make up more)

What do you think?

Lance SULTAN OF PHALUHM PHOUECK (IN EXILE)File:PhaluhmRoyalCoat.png

20:54, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

1. Personally I don't like that logo, but another would maybe be nice
2. Nice!
3. I don't know if that's really usefull
4. Good idea, but maybe we have to let people think of a motto and then vote for the best

Niels20020 (Talk) 18:56, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Anthem: Lancededcena\IWO Anthem

Lance SULTAN OF PHALUHM PHOUECK (IN EXILE)File:PhaluhmRoyalCoat.png

20:48, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Idea 5 - IWO Summit. Every month, a summit is held in each member of the IWO:

Adlibita - January
Brunant - Febuary
Cettatie - March
Insel Islands - April
Juliana - May
Libertas - June
Lovia - July
Maores - August
Patriam - September
Phaluhm Phoueck - October
Prasia - November

How's this?

Lance SULTAN OF PHALUHM PHOUECK (IN EXILE)File:PhaluhmRoyalCoat.png

10:14, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, you don't added the Southern Arc Islands and Reptin in this list Niels20020 (Talk) 10:32, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Southern Arc Islands - December. Since Maores is in Limburgish, we can easily axe it (:P) and put Reptin instead in August. Mezatir FictiveJ (discuss) 21:51, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Well nobody here speaks Romanian (Adlibitan), Limburgish or Kölsch (Reptin). 19:31, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

We can speak English in these summits. Lancededcena File:Ostrobia.png 20:17, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

That makes me think, wouldn't we be speaking Engloish in all those summits? I could do Spanish and French, plus minimal dutch, but that's about it. 20:38, November 30, 2015 (UTC)