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| − | | '''[[National Archives]] of the Congressional debates and votes:'''<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/1 One|1. First series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/2 Two|2. Second series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/3 Three|3. Third series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/4 Four|4. Fourth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/5 Five|5. Fifth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/6 Six|6. Sixth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/7 Seven|7. Seventh series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/8 Eight|8. Eighth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/9 Nine|9. Ninth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/10 Ten|10. Tenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/11 Eleven|11. Eleventh series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/12 Twelve|12. Twelfth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/13 Thirteen|13. Thirteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/14 Fourteen|14. Fourteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/15 Fifteen|15. Fifteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/16 Sixteen|16. Sixteenth series]][[Category:Forum]][[Category:Congress]] |
+ | | '''[[National Archives]] of the Congressional debates and votes:'''<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/1 One|1. First series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/2 Two|2. Second series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/3 Three|3. Third series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/4 Four|4. Fourth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/5 Five|5. Fifth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/6 Six|6. Sixth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/7 Seven|7. Seventh series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/8 Eight|8. Eighth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/9 Nine|9. Ninth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/10 Ten|10. Tenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/11 Eleven|11. Eleventh series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/12 Twelve|12. Twelfth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/13 Thirteen|13. Thirteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/14 Fourteen|14. Fourteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/15 Fifteen|15. Fifteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/16 Sixteen|16. Sixteenth series]]<br />[[National Archives/Chambers/17 Seventeen|17. Seventeenth Series]][[Category:Forum]][[Category:Congress]] |
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| − | In [[Lovia]], [[Congress]] is the national legislative body and the most powerful branch of government. The '''Second Chamber''' is one of the two chambers of Congress, located in the [[Capitol]] in [[Downtown]] [[Noble City]], in which the [[Members of the Congress]] vote bills that originated in the [[First Chamber]]. Paradoxically, Lovia does not have a bicameral parliament: there is only one group of MOTCs that both debates and votes the proposals. For the current composition of Congress, |
+ | In [[Lovia]], [[Congress]] is the national legislative body and the most powerful branch of government. The '''Second Chamber''' is one of the two chambers of Congress, located in the [[Capitol]] in [[Downtown]] [[Noble City]], in which the [[Members of the Congress]] vote bills that originated in the [[First Chamber]]. Paradoxically, Lovia does not have a bicameral parliament: there is only one group of MOTCs that both debates and votes the proposals. For the current composition of Congress, [[2017 First Congress|see this]]. |
| − | Whereas all national [[citizen]]s may propose bills in the First Chamber, only [[Members of the Congress]] may vote them in the Second Chamber. Article 6 of the [[Constitution]] states that "all Members of the Congress are expected to vote on the motion in the Second Chamber". |
+ | Whereas all national [[citizen]]s may propose bills in the First Chamber, only [[Members of the Congress]] may vote them in the Second Chamber. Article 6 of the [[Constitution]] states that "all Members of the Congress are expected to vote on the motion in the Second Chamber". When amending Federal Law they have three legal voting options (two of which are countable): "pro (in favor of the motion), contra (in opposition to the motion) and abstention (the wish not to vote and the uncountable option)." Further more, they "have two weeks’ time to cast their vote in the Second Chamber." When it comes to amending the Constitution however all three voting options are considered valid and voting may both be closed earlier if the required majority is reached and extended by the proposer. |
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| + | A normal majority ("more than fifty percent of the countable votes") is required to pass a motion amending the [[Federal Law]]. To vote on [[Constitution]]al [[amendment]]s, a special majority ("more than two thirds of the valid votes") is required to pass a amendment. The special majority requirement was lowered from three quarters to two thirds in the [[2010 State Reform]] ([[Sixth Amendment]]). All proposals approved by Congress, by the required majority and in due time, must be implemented by the government of Lovia. |
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| − | A normal majority ("more than fifty percent of the valid votes") is required to pass a motion amending the [[Federal Law]]. To vote on [[Constitution]]al [[amendment]]s, a special majority ("more than two thirds of the valid votes") is required to pass a amendment. The special majority requirement was lowered from three quarters to two thirds in the [[2010 State Reform]] ([[Sixth Amendment]]). All proposals approved by Congress, by the required majority and in due time, must be implemented by the government of Lovia. |
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+ | == 001. Government formation == |
| + | Because we've had numerous discussions about this since the election, but never really concluded with an agreement, let's simply put the most popular option to a vote: a [[CCPL]]-[[GP]]-[[MCP]] coalition government, with [[Oos Wes Ilava]] as prime minister and other ministries to be determined later. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 04:17, October 12, 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | *[[Prime Minister]] |
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| − | **[[Lukas Hoffmann]] (Kunarian) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Agriculture]] |
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| − | **[[Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari]] (Viva) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Commerce]] |
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| − | **[[Neil Hardy]] (Happy) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Culture]] |
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| − | **[[Bart Koenen]] (Bart) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Defense]] |
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| − | **[[Lukas Hoffmann]] (Kunarian) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Education]] |
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| − | **[[William Krosby]] (Time) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Energy and Resources]] |
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| − | **[[Neil Hardy]] (Happy) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Environment]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (Topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Social Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Katie Conroy]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Family, Youth, and Elderly]] |
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| − | **[[Oos Wes Ilava]] (Oos) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Finance]] |
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| − | **[[William Krosby]] (Time) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Foreign Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Aina Sarria]] (Traspes) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Health]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Justice]] |
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| − | **[[Charles Jones]] (4Kant) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Labour]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Minority Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Martijn Mans]] (Martijn) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Tourism and Sport]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (Topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Transportation]] |
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| − | **[[Oos Wes Ilava]] (Oos) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Science]] |
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| − | **[[Peter Blanch]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Speaker of the Congress]] |
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| − | **[[Lukas Hoffmann]] (Kunarian) |
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| − | Feel free to change the names as appropriate. |
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| − | The above list is my proposed government. It is designed to try and represent the spread of power in the Congress between the parties and allocate Ministries to those with the most interest in said areas and to make sure everyone has something they can focus on. This government is designed to not allow a lurch to the left or right in great degrees but to focus the best policies in the places where they are most needed at the current times. |
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| − | My proposed budget will be one that aims for a minor deficit, investing in the economy to help it grow, with the intention to pay the debt off next Congress. We shall ensure low taxes on the poorest and try and raise L$2-3 billion (from the current L$8 billion in the economy) to fund government expenditure. I will ask that States do not levy taxes while we rebalance and repair the States that are in most need. We will aim to devolve spending down to Ministries and States where applicable and encourage Ministers to take an active role in allocating resources. |
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| − | I will personally be introducing the following bills to Congress over the coming months as part of my main aims. They are listed in no particular order. |
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| − | *'''Constitutional Reform Bills''' |
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| − | **'''Congressional Reform Bill''' - a bill to reduce the effect of inactives on Congress |
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| − | **'''Second State Reform Bill''' - a bill to rebalance power between state and federal level |
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| − | *'''State Investment Fund Bill''' - a bill to introduce controlled economic investment by States |
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| − | *'''Adult Education Bill''' - a bill to introduce supported adult education, particularly education of the unemployed |
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| − | *'''Trade Disputes Bill''' - a bill to give unions and workers powers over their labour, and to regulate disputes |
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| − | *'''Health Reform Bills''' |
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| − | **'''National Health Service Bill''' - a bill to create a national health service, replacing state models |
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| − | **'''Tripartite Care Bill''' - a bill to ensure physical, mental and social care are integrated |
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| − | *'''Housing Reform Bills''' |
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| − | **'''Social Rents Bill''' - a bill to create a requirement for state and federal governments to provide social rents to the neediest |
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| − | **'''Home Building Bill''' - a bill to create a system of support for building, repairing and renovating homes |
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| − | *'''Defence Bills''' |
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| − | **'''Firearms Reform Bill''' - a bill to change and better regulate how firearms are controlled in Lovia |
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| − | **'''Militia Reform Bill''' - a bill to provide for greater ability to persecute insurgents and militia groups |
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| − | *'''Education Reform Bills''' |
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| − | **'''School Building Bill''' - a bill to create a system of support for building, repairing and renovating schools |
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| − | **'''Educational Board Reform Bill''' - a bill to create one universal educational board to provide official qualifications regulation |
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| − | Everyone who is in Congress will obviously be able to partake in these debates, and we'll hopefully - as we have in the past - come to a reasonable conclusion on each debate and create many good laws and reforms. These bills that I will introduce do not obviously mean others cannot contribute other bills. I encourage people to come to Congress with issues or ideas so we may debate them and see if legislation is needed. |
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===Voting=== |
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+ | *{{Pro}} 22 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 04:17, October 12, 2017 (UTC) |
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+ | *{{Pro}} 8 votes. [[User:MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#009933">MyOwnBadSelf</span>]] <small>([[User_talk:MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#003399">talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#990033">stalk</span>]]) </small> 06:50, October 12, 2017 (UTC) |
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+ | *{{pro}} ? votes :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 13:05, October 13, 2017 (UTC) |
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+ | *{{pro}} 0 votes I suspect :o --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 16:04, October 13, 2017 (UTC) |
| − | *{{pro}} (7 votes, read speech in Pub) '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 20:30, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} (4 votes) --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 08:39, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} (2 votes) <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 19:25, May 5, 2015 (UTC) (CPL.nm: Excludes AMWM and CPL.nm) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} (1 vote) [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] |
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| − | ====Abstain==== |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 11 votes [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 20:36, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 7 votes. (This is better than the Hardy proposal, but not yet quite satisfactory. For example, I'd rather have Environment than Energy and Resources, and again the MoTaS thing.) [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:50, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 4 votes. [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 23:16, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 8 votes. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:34, May 7, 2015 (UTC) (SLP: now supporting AMWM) |
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| − | {{Declined}} Moot with the passing of the AMWM government. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:59, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | === Comments === |
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| − | The final line up. I hope others make it clear what their final proposals are and move them to the second chamber as well. So that all Congressmembers can see what their choice really is. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 13:44, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | There has been a slight modification to the proposal I encourage people to vote again. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 21:49, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ==004. Conroy I Government== |
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| − | ''Some minor adjustments have been made to the ministry positions. Users with more than position, feel free to change character names for spares'' |
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| − | *[[Prime Minister]] |
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| − | **[[Katie Conroy]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Agriculture]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Commerce]] |
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| − | **[[Charles Jones]] (4kant) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Culture]] |
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| − | **[[Aina Sarria]] (Traspes) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Defence]] |
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| − | **[[Lukas Hoffmann]] (Kunarian) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Education]] |
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| − | **[[William Krosby]] (Time) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Energy and Resources]] |
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| − | **[[Lukas Hoffmann]] (Kunarian) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Environment]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (Topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Social Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Aina Sarria]] (Traspes) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Family, Youth, and Elderly]] |
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| − | **[[Sarah Lambert]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Finance]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Foreign Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Liam Mitchell]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Health]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Justice]] |
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| − | **[[Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari]] (Viva) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Labour]] |
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| − | **[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Minorities]] |
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| − | **[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Tourism and Sport]] |
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| − | **[[Neil Hardy]] (Happy) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Transportation]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (Topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Science]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (Topaz) |
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| − | *[[Speaker of the Congress]] |
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| − | **[[William Krosby]] (Time) |
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| − | This is my government proposal. It is a response to calls from throughout our country for a more progressive government, and includes plans for much needed reform. |
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| − | The following are the policy areas on which I wish to focus over the coming months. I seek to propose the following acts in Congress, in hope of a re-energised and vibrant Lovia. |
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| − | *'''State Governments Act'''- We seek to open a dialogue with groups from across the spectrum in order to reform how state governments work. Ultimately, our goal is for State Councils to have control over issues such as culture, language, environment and education, with the federal government taking on more responsibility for policy areas such as housing, healthcare and welfare. |
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| − | *'''National Healthcare Act'''- As mentioned above, we will legislate for a national framework of physical, mental and social healthcare, incorporating the existing state healthcare systems. We hope this will end disparity and inequality between the healthcare services of state governments. |
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| − | *'''Higher Education Act'''- We will provide further investment in our universities, and open a discussion on tuition fees, with the aim of abolishing them, or at the very least putting a cap on them. This act will also promote higher vocational education and work-based training |
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| − | *'''Housing Act'''- We will seek to resolve problems with housing across Lovia, with a system of social housing, and increased federal investment in homebuilding. |
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| − | In addition, I will also seek to implement minor legislation in the following policy areas: |
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| − | *'''Minor amendments to Primary and Secondary Education Acts'''- Creation of Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) to guarantee high standards of teaching in all Lovian schools |
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| − | *'''Support for working families'''- We will introduce childcare vouchers to ensure that parents of young children are able to balance work with their family life. We will also consider a system of paid parental leave for new parents, to be shared between both parents. |
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| − | This vision for a better Lovia brings a fresh perspective to the table. This vision seeks to address the causes of inequality and conflict in our country, and is a fairer deal for all. |
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| − | We hope this plan for stable leadership will provide for a more prosperous, progressive Lovia that all citizens can benefit from- '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 16:50, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 11 votes [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 20:36, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 10 votes <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 19:25, May 5, 2015 (UTC) (CPL.nm: Excludes CPL.nm; SLP: Inexperienced PM) |
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| − | *{{contra}} (15 votes) --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:55, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 7 votes (similar ideas, but of course, as you posted on mine, we both understand) [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 17:34, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | {{Declined}} Withdrawn. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 23:30, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Comments=== |
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| − | I've made a few minor tweaks to the final ministry line up, but the bulk of my plans remain unchanged- '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 16:50, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Seriously Time? You're voting against this because of the absence of the CPL.nm? They aren't represented by an active user, and never requested any positions. It seems you're looking for any excuse NOT to support me :o '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 19:42, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::And because of the inexperience, and because I only have one ministry (Speaker does not count). :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 19:58, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::You might be in a more favorable position, with more ministries, had you shown a little more support. There were others who wanted Education by the way, but I still gave it to you because I know you're interested in that issue :o '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 20:02, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Good thing your gov is getting voted down :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:25, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::In the grand scheme of things, I don't think you voting down my government is going to have a huge effect on the overall result :o '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 20:50, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::CNP, CCPL, and probably Viva are all not in support. Plus, TM001 is inactive. :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:54, May 5, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 005. Hardy I Government== |
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| − | * PM: |
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| − | ** Neil Hardy (Happy) |
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| − | * Agriculture: |
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| − | ** George Wrexley (TM001) |
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| − | * Commerce: |
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| − | ** Bart Koenen (Bart K) |
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| − | * Culture: |
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| − | ** Arthur Sythey (Sithlent) |
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| − | * Defence: |
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| − | ** Lukas Hoffmann (Kunarian) |
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| − | * Education: |
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| − | ** William Krosby (Time) |
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| − | * Energy and resources: |
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| − | ** Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari (Viva) |
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| − | * Environment: |
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| − | ** Bart Koenen (Bart) |
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| − | * Social Affairs: |
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| − | ** Katie Konroy (Frijoles) |
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| − | * Family, youth and elderly: |
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| − | ** Oos Wes Ilava (Oos) |
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| − | * Finance: |
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| − | ** William Krosby (Time) |
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| − | * Foreign affairs: |
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| − | ** Aina Sarria (Traspes) |
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| − | * Health: |
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| − | ** Justin Abrahams (Horton) |
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| − | * Justice: |
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| − | ** Charles Jones (4kant) |
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| − | * Labour: |
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| − | ** Justin Abrahams (Horton) |
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| − | * Minorities: |
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| − | ** Martijn Mans (Martijn) |
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| − | * Tourism and sport: |
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| − | ** Nicholas Sheraldin (Topaz) |
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| − | * Transportation: |
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| − | ** Oos Wes Ilava (Oos) |
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| − | * Science: |
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| − | ** Anna-Maria Whitdonck-Malsky (Semyon) |
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| − | * Speaker of the Congress: |
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| − | ** Nicolas Sheraldin (Topaz) |
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| − | The proposed Hardy I Government would look to create an active and stable congress, including parties from across the spectrum. We feel it is necessary to create a National Health Service, replacing the current system, whereby not all states currently have an active health service. We look to work closely with proposed Minister of Education William Krosby, creating a national education board and providing funds to renovate poor schools. We also look to reduce the effect of inactive members of the congress by creating an edit criteria in the terms of congress members. We look to protect minority languages and culture and teach minority languages in late primary, secondary and tertiary education. We look to impose Animal protection laws, and make sure animal cruelty will be punished. |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} (15 votes) --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 20:41, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} (7 votes) [[User:Happy65|Happy65]] 20:42, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | * (2 votes) [[User:Sithlent|Sithlent]] ([[User talk:Sithlent|talk]]) 21:00, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 10 votes (CCPL as PM, two T&S ministers?) <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 16:11, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 7 votes (Me and Hardy do have a couple of ideas in common, but I can't vote for a CCPL government) '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 17:22, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 7 votes. (See TM and Frijoles' comments. Though I have to commend this for being the only proposal with me as at least half the MoTaS. :P) [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:42, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Abstain==== |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 11 votes [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 14:18, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | {{Declined}} Moot with the passing of the AMWM government. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:59, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 006. AMWM I Government == |
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| − | *[[Prime Minister]] |
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| − | **[[AMWM]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Agriculture]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Commerce]] |
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| − | **[[Jon Johnson]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Culture]] |
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| − | **[[Aina Sarria]] (Traspes) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Defence]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Education]] |
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| − | **[[William Krosby]] (TM) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Energy and Resources]] |
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| − | **[[Aina Sarria]] (Traspes) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Environment]] |
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| − | **[[Nicholas Sheraldin]] (77topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Social Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Katie Conroy]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Family, Youth, and Elderly]] |
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| − | **[[Sarah Lambert]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Finance]] |
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| − | **[[Lucy Austira]] (TM) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Foreign Affairs]] |
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| − | **[[Liam Mitchell]] (Frijoles) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Health]] |
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| − | **[[Justin Abrahams]] (Horton) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Justice]] |
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| − | **[[Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari]] (Viva) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Labour]] |
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| − | **[[Miroslav Znalic]] (Marcus) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Minorities]] |
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| − | **[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Transportation]] |
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| − | **[[George Wrexley]] (TM001) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Tourism and Sport]] |
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| − | **[[Levi Straszev]] (77topaz) |
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| − | *[[Ministry of Science]] |
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| − | **[[Peter Blanch]] (Semyon) |
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| − | *[[Speaker of the Congress]] |
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| − | **[[Isabella Munson]] (TM) |
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| − | My government will pursue a socialist course. See my manifesto for more details. |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} (6 votes) --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 21:49, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} (10 votes) needs more positions for Semyon, though <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:51, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 22:05, May 6, 2015 (UTC) (I already pledged support for Hoffmann's proposal, but now I'm liking this new proposal. I will keep pro votes up for both for the time being) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 1 Vote [[User:Crystalbeastdeck09|Miroslav]] [[User_Talk:Crystalbeastdeck09|Znalic]] 23:18, May 6, 2015 (UTC) (For the first step towards the truly emancipatory collective!) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 5 votes [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 23:39, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 01:32, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 11 votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 13:17, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} (3 votes) [[File:Flag of the Xanian Empire.svg|30px|border|link=http://xania-encyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Xania_Encyclopedia_Wiki|The Xania Encyclopedia Wiki]] [[User:Vivaporius|Vivaporius]]: <small>"[[User talk:Vivaporius|I don't need a slogan]]"</small> 14:45, May 8, 2015 (UTC) (I had a change of heart. :P) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 17:58, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} (15 votes) --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 21:50, May 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *<strike>{{Abstention}} (3 votes) [[File:Flag of the Xanian Empire.svg|30px|border|link=http://xania-encyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Xania_Encyclopedia_Wiki|The Xania Encyclopedia Wiki]] [[User:Vivaporius|Vivaporius]]: <small>"[[User talk:Vivaporius|I don't need a slogan]]"</small> 20:10, May 7, 2015 (UTC) (I'd prefer to be Minister of Justice. No one wanted the position, and I feel that it is more fitting for a man of Rakham's stature.)</strike> |
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| − | {{Accepted}} By at least a 51% majority. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:19, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Four more votes needed to pass. I hope to see the CNP, Wrexley's branch of the UL, and Asmari's branch of GP supporting this in order to create the best progress Lovia has had in a long time! --[[William Krosby]] 13:20, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | The CNP shall not be backing this. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 16:09, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I am sadified by that. I suppose we will be better off without anti-progress politicians, though. --[[William Krosby]] 16:13, May 7, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Once Semyon revotes, we will have 50 votes Pro. Does anyone object to waiving the two week requirement of waiting before enshrinement, due to the fact that 4 of the MOTCS who have not yet voted will far more likely than not vote Pro, making a majority against impossible? <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 15:35, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :That's not a majority. A majority is 51. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 17:57, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Yes, but the Constitution says that you only need a majority of valid votes after two weeks. But we have a majority now, almost. :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 18:43, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I hereby declare the [[Whithdonck-Malsky I Government]] inaugurated. This is a historic moment for progress in this country, and I congratulate all of those involved. --[[Isabella Munson]] 20:19, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I thank the Lovian people and their congress for their support. Let those who oppress the poor, those who view women as inferior, and those who promulgate ethnic tension throughout this land shake in fear. [[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 20:35, May 8, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 007. Action against Burenia == |
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| − | Burenia has begun a devastating program of ethnic cleansing against the Kob minority. I propose that Lovia formally condemn these actions, cut all economic ties with Burenia and commit to accepting an unlimited number of Kob refugees. |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 16:23, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 16:29, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 18:38, May 19, 2015 (UTC) Gotta act as Oos Wes Ilava here. My Burenian version disagrees though :o |
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| − | **I commend Mr. Ilava for his bravery in defying the powerful Burenian lobby which I know exerts great influence over CCPL. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 20:02, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 21:00, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **I thank Mr. Hardy and the CCPL for their support. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 21:00, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 01:29, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} We are in the middle of our own economic crisis, many people in this country need immediate help, the government has done nothing. And now you suggest we accept an '''unlimited''' amount of refugees? This government and Congress is truly insane if this passes. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 19:09, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **But how many Kob people are there? 10,000? We can do that, especially with UN/IWO help. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 19:53, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***But there is no plan, no numbers listed above. This government has not even proposed its tax numbers so how it can hope to pay for anything is beyond me. Further for all the talk of progress this government has done little to nothing with the time it has had thus far and I can see them doing even less with the many months ahead. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 22:59, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **What is insane is the utter selfishness of Mr. Hoffmann and the philosophy he represents, preferring to see innocent people die than let a penny of government money be spent to prevent it. I recognise the concept may be alien to members of CNP, but this government has a moral responsibility to act. We have to power to provide succour to the oppressed, that is this government's mandate, and that is what we shall do. If the CNP prefers to lend its support to those that at this moment are gleefully bayoneting babies, let them do so. I fear those Lovians who too suffered at the hands of the Burenians last year will be unimpressed, however. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 19:57, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***Anna may not even take a moment to consider Lovia but she should be aware that I am not part of the CNP, this would be abundantly clear if she spent but the smallest amount of time reading the papers or watching the news. Action should be taken but to give no plan, no numbers, no nothing is beyond stupid. You talk of government money, but you have none, your government hasn't even proposed let alone passed your taxation rates. You say you have the mandate to provide succour to the oppressed, what about those in Lovia? you've had a month in government and nothing has left your lips concerning the homeless, the jobless nor those who are ill or unwell. This act is nothing more than an impotent government throwing its weight around to try and feel powerful while Lovia slips further into the mire. It would seem that Anna reveals that she cares more about a crisis abroad, proposing a solution however poor it is within days, but cares not one bit about the Lovian, who have suffered for months, not one solution at all from her. She is a hypocrite and a traitor to the people who elected her and to every other Lovian that relies, unfortunately, on this champagne socialist government. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 22:59, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ****You offend me deeply. This is a humanitarian emergency. A response to a genocide cannot be delayed for petty financial matters to be resolved. Those can be done later. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 23:13, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *****You may have skipped a large amount of the issue that I raised but there is no plan here. There is nothing, there isn't even a proposal on how to get the refugees from A to B. You are all patting yourselves on the back because you are unable to realise that without a plan you cannot do anything. Like this government has failed to do anything, you have no plan so you fail. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 23:28, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ******I view this as a proposal to allow the executive branch to take the actions it sees fit. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 00:29, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *******Then it is true, you have no plan. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 06:44, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ****Mr. Hoffmann should at the very least respect the authority of this Chamber, if not his own dignity, before befouling it with his feculent orations. His sudden concern for the Lovians whose visages his government ground languidly beneath its foot is inexplicable; rest assured that we will shortly begin action to reverse its depredations. In response to his talk of betrayal, I need give no explanation why I continue to refer to him as a member of CNP. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 09:57, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *****Anna seems to confuse herself, for years I have campaigned for the worst off in society while she screeched about parties that have bettered Lovia a hundred fold compared to your petulant antics. And you give no explanation because there is none, you are simply out of touch and full of yourself. This government will achieve nothing and will end come the elections and hopefully end your career for good. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 10:32, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **Accept refugees? Yes. Accept all 30.000 Kòb people? For a small nation like Lovia, that's not even possible. We should somehow divide the refugees between various nations, and ideally make the Burenian government stop immediately. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 05:47, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***My esteemed colleague makes the point. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 06:44, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ****I think the number of Kòbtáale has already sufficiently decreased to a number we can hold though following the atomic attacks on the ^látoskì :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 07:03, May 20, 2015 (UTC) damn keyboard stil not installed :'( |
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| − | *****Then we still need a number and a plan, even 10,000 is a great amount, that's bigger than most settlements in Lovia bar the largest towns and cities. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 07:08, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ******We should make a Kòb village in Clymene then :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 07:17, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *******Surely one of the Governors who voted in favour should take the refugees into their State? :o [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 07:51, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ********No, one of the Governors (or all of them) who does not want them in should have them in their state, so they learn the beauty of living together with another culture and what it means to support each other :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:13, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *********Maybe they should go to Oceana to teach the Oceana to stop being separatists and love their fellows. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 08:17, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **********Maybe we should give them a łátoskì on the City Archipelago :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:33, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***********That's not a bad idea, recolonise the Archipelago, they're will be plenty of colonists for the matter. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 08:57, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ************ :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 09:04, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *************After refugees have been accepted, we can consider further action, including distribution to other friendly nations. I will also contact the UN to request their assistance in establishing a refugee camp. The priority is to remove those whose lives are at risk as soon as possible. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 09:57, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **************You still have no plan for how to get them to said camp. Your ignorance is painful. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 10:32, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} I'm gonna have to go neutral here. We have our own issues to deal with, as has been pointed out, and an unlimited number of refugees could cause a strain on our resources. That said, we should not turn our backs on refugees. It is too much for Lovia alone to have to take in all these refugees, and it makes more sence to have multiple nations, perhaps even an IWO-wide plan to divide refugees among several nations such as Prasia, Brunant, Insel, Juliana etc. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 19:38, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **I welcome the support for action on this issue, but would urge UL to support the proposal. This is an extremely urgent situation and we need to evacuate refugees as soon as possible. I strongly agree that we should coordinate with the IWO and hope Mr. Abrahams, with his extensive links abroad, can assist with this. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 20:08, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***Mr. Abrahams has little to no links abroad, sadly (common misconception though). You'd have to talk to the relevant persons abroad. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 21:55, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | 5 more votes required. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:54, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I propose immediate military intervention to halt the genocide. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 16:29, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | We do not have an army, however. Many members of this government also adhere to a pacifist philosophy. --[[Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky]] 19:58, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Military intervention would require assembling a [[Multinational Task Force]] as was done the first time around. And of course if we were to get an army, it'd be some time just to pass the necessary legislation, and a while more to put it into operation. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 20:03, May 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | #Recycling in Lovia is mandated by the Federal Government, and both implemented and managed by Lovia's states. |
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| − | #Lovia will employ a common collection system for different types of recycling via a number of bins. These include: |
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| − | ##a red bin, for plastics, glass and metal |
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| − | ##a blue bin, for paper and cardboard |
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| − | ##States may add other bins for further recycling including batteries, electronics, hazardous materials and other items not recyclable within the current three bins. |
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| − | #The collection of recyclable materials for the red, green, blue and other potential bins shall be done as for garbage collection. |
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| − | ##States are free to determine dates for collection, as well as the frequency, so long as it is done no less than twice per month. |
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| − | #All states will also set up and operate at least one designated collection point for recycling or disposing of items not recyclable via home collection, operating alongside curbside collection. |
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| − | ##These collection points may be used to dispose or recycle batteries, electrical and electronic items, hazardous items, construction material, raw materials and large or uncommon items which cannot be properly collected at the curbside. |
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| − | Please do vote (pro). [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 14:38, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 11 votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 14:44, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 14:51, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. The Minister of Environment is pleased with this effort. :) [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:13, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 6 votes, though I'm not certain it's a priority. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 20:26, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes, agree with Semyon. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:38, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 20:52, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 1 Vote [[User:Crystalbeastdeck09|Miroslav]] [[User_Talk:Crystalbeastdeck09|Znalic]] 22:13, May 20, 2015 (UTC) (I don't see how it isn't a priority to some extent) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes --[[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 11:03, May 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Contra==== |
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| − | *<s>{{contra}} 10 votes. Did you not revise this at all?? Among other things, who decides how many "collections points" a state has, and how many are used to dispose/recycle batteries (and how is this done), etc? <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 15:12, May 20, 2015 (UTC)</s> |
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| − | *It has been revised and edited (by Semyon as well). The state is free to determine the number, usage and operation of collection points, as long as it is within reason. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 15:20, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **You better add that to the bill. :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 15:24, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ***Stop worrying about details, you don't seem to care about them in the voting section above this one. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 18:46, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ****{{unamused}} <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:38, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Abstention==== |
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| − | {{Accepted}} with at least 56% of all possible votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 20:54, May 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ==012. Tax Rates== |
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| − | Income Tax: |
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| − | *Tax Exclusion of L$30,000 |
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| − | *First Rate of 20% (30,000 to 60,000) |
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| − | *Second Rate of 30% (60,000 to 150,000) |
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| − | *Third Rate of 40% (150,000 to 400,000) |
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| − | *Fourth Rate of 50% (400,000 to 1,000,000) |
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| − | *Fifth Rate of 60% (1,000,000 plus) |
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| − | Property Tax: |
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| − | *Tax Exclusion of 60 square meters for property |
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| − | *Property Rate of 50 cents a square meter |
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| − | *Tax Exclusion of 40,000 square meters for land |
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| − | *Land Rate of 5 cents a square meter |
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| − | *Protected Rate of 1 cent a meter ((what is this?)) |
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| − | Imported Sales Tax: |
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| − | *10% IST Rate |
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| − | ===Voting=== |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:54, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 5 votes --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 20:13, May 26, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:20, May 26, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 1 Vote [[User:Crystalbeastdeck09|Miroslav]] [[User_Talk:Crystalbeastdeck09|Znalic]] 00:26, May 27, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 5 votes. [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 01:35, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 1 vote '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 13:22, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 7 votes, I prefer fairer lower rates that do not attack the rich, especially no tax rates above 50%. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:25, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Abstain==== |
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| − | *{{abstain}} 1 vote [[Marc Thomassen]] 20:14, May 26, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Comments=== |
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| − | {{declined}} - moot with the passing of Hoffmann's proposal. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 13:33, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ==013. Alternate Tax Rates== |
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| − | '''Income Tax:''' |
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| − | :Tax Exclusion of L$21,000 |
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| − | :First Rate of 20% (21,000 to 52,000) |
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| − | :Second Rate of 30% (52,000 to 144,000) |
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| − | :Third Rate of 40% (144,000 to 626,000) |
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| − | :Fourth Rate of 50% (626,000 plus) |
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| − | '''Property Tax:''' |
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| − | :Tax Exclusion of 60 Square Metres for Property |
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| − | :Property Rate of 50 Cents a Metre |
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| − | :Tax Exclusion of 40,000 Square Metres for Land |
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| − | :Land Rate of 5 Cents a Metre |
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| − | :Protected Rate of 1 Cent a Metre |
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| − | '''Imported Sales Tax:''' |
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| − | :10% IST Rate |
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| − | It'd raise L$2,643,796,000 Which should be more than enough for the various projects the States and Nation need to enact. It would not certainly be punitive to the richest but would ask them to lend the country a helping hand in this time of need (86% of Income Tax would come from those with over L$100,000 in earnings). The Property taxes allow small farmers and homeowners to be free of tax while requiring large property owning corporations and business people to contribute. The Imported Sales Tax would help keep Lovian industry protected during this fragile time. |
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| − | ===Voting=== |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:24, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:32, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 10:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 4 votes --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 16:03, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | * {{pro}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 17:02, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:20, May 26, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 3 votes. [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 01:31, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 6 votes '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 13:22, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Contra==== |
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| − | *{{contra}} 10 votes - Too much tax on poor and not enough on rich. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:27, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The only reason you want tax on the rich is because you hate them with a passion. This tax proposal raises 86% of funds from those with over L$100,000 income and nothing from the poorest 50%. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:45, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::They're hardly any different... <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:46, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Again, the only reason they are hardly any different is because you have copied my proposal and hiked up taxes on the rich. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:52, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 2 votes. 20 is very high and you can start with 10%, Kunarian. [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 01:32, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Comments=== |
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| − | An alternate to Time's proposal which is anti-anyone who earns a large amount of money. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:24, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | They're so close though... <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:29, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :The only reason they are close is because yours is essentially a copy of my proposal in the First Chamber with taxes hiked up on the rich. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:41, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Irrelevant. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:43, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Not irrelevant, you don't even under stand the taxes you are raising, as made clear by the non-understanding of the Protected Rate on land tax. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:44, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Not understanding property tax is irrelevant to understanding income tax. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:46, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::If you want to go back to income tax, and talk about how you think having punitive taxes on the rich will help Lovia then feel free. For now I'm not replying so that other people can actually get in edgewise on this. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 14:54, May 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::I may have to vote pro on this, though I really would have liked for the lowest tax bracket only paying 10%. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 12:45, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::The lowest tax bracket is 0% though. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 14:24, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::I was talking about the lowest tax-paying bracket. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 14:29, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::I'm all for lower taxes, especially on the lower rates. Just so you know, we'd lose about 124,000,000 in funds. If you could get the people who voted pro here to support lowering the first rate to 10% then we could certainly do it. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 17:05, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::I raised the start of the first tax bracket for 21k to 30k, but apparently because adding an extra 10% tax above a million is punitive to the rich, no one's voting pro. {{unamused}} <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 17:23, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::::No you raised taxes a lot more than that. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 18:09, May 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::::Except I didn't? <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 20:02, May 26, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Is the property tax per month or per year? --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:09, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :They're all per year (except IST), I think. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 22:02, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | {{accepted}} --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 13:31, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ==014. Vouchers Repeal== |
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| − | This repeals vouchers, adds a Qualified Teacher Status, and makes some other minor changes. For CCPL voters, the religious education provision in the Secondary Education Act has been restored. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:43, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Primary Education Act=== |
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| − | *# Primary education is the educating of children in a school or privately, by qualified teachers, in order to provide them with the apt knowledge and skills to go to secondary education. |
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| − | *# Primary education is provided in primary or elementary schools, unless the child is taught privately. |
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| − | *## Primary schools can be operated privately, that is by an individual or an organization, or publicly, that is by a neighborhood, hamlet, town, city, state or by the federal state. |
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| − | *## Primary schools have to appoint teachers that are qualified to teach the subjects they are asked to teach. |
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| − | *### All primary school teachers must have obtained a single Lovian Certificate of Education Level 2 or above. |
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| − | *### All primary school teachers must pass a set of examinations, consisting of an oral and written component, created and managed by the [[Ministry of Education]]. |
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| − | *### All primary school teachers must have obtained Qualified Teacher Status, which can be gained through completing an approved teacher training course, created and managed by the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *## Primary schools can turn down pupils only in special cases, these being the inability to provide education to a pupil with a particular problem, the inability to properly provide education for a pupil due to a lack of resources or if a pupil has proven to be unable to behave according to previous schools' regulations. In no other cases, pupils shall be denied access without consultation with the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *# Primary schools provide general and basic education to a child. All subjects taught must be Lovian Certificates of Education and may not be Supplementary Lovian Certificate of Education. |
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| − | *## These subjects should be taught at least three hours per week, during the six years of primary education: |
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| − | *##* English (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Mathematics (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Arts and Crafts (level 1) |
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| − | *## These subjects should be taught at least two hours per week, during the six years of primary education: |
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| − | *##* Physical Education (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Social Education (level 1) |
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| − | *##* The school must also choose a level 1 language subject to provide other than English that must be taught at least two hours a week, from a list which the State Government will provide. |
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| − | *## These subjects should be taught at least one hour per week, during the six years of primary education: |
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| − | *##* History (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Geography (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Science (level 1) |
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| − | *##* Computing (level 1) |
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| − | *## Primary schools may also provide more languages than the two mandatory subjects to pupils. The specific additional languages a pupil is taught however will be selected by the pupil themselves from the list of additional languages the school provides beyond the two mandatory language subjects. |
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| − | *## Primary schools are free to choose to provide more classes of any of these subjects, or to provide other level 1 subjects considered valuable, in order to provide a minimum of twenty-two hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. Primary schools may provide more classes beyond the twenty-two hour minimum but none beyond the maximum of thirty hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. |
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| − | *## There shall be no doctrinal classes in primary schools. |
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| − | *### In a course called 'Religions of the world', children may be taught about religions. If the school wishes to teach this subject, all major religions should be brought to attention, as well as a non-religious attitude. |
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| − | *### Primary schools and their teachers may not try to convince children of a certain religious or political point of view, nor can they make any pupil exercise a religious act, unless the pupil and/or the parents agree with taking doctrinal classes. |
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| − | *# These rules apply for the arrangement of the timetable: |
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| − | *## A break of at least 10 minutes is compulsory between every two hours; more often is allowed. |
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| − | *## There shall be no classes on Sunday. |
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| − | *## There shall be no classes between 7 PM and 7 AM. |
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| − | *## There must be a lunch break every day, of at least an hour, between noon and 2 PM. |
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| − | *# Private education, by a qualified teacher, can be provided. In this case, the same rules apply. |
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| − | *## Private primary schools must follow all non-financial regulations provided in this law. They may not charge more than $11,000 for tuition. |
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| − | *# Every child residing in Lovia has to receive six years of primary education, beginning in the schoolyear during which the child will reach the age of 6 years. |
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| − | *## Only if a qualified psychologist and the pupil's teacher find it appropriate for the pupil to skip a schoolyear and continue education with older pupils, and if the parents agree on this, the pupil may skip a schoolyear. |
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| − | *## Every pupil has to receive primary education until the schoolyear during which the pupil will reach the age of 11, except in the case mentioned above. |
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| − | *# In case a primary school does not provide the kind of education described in this article, the Minister of Education or the [[Royal Educational Aims Council]] can decide to shut down the school until the service provided does qualify. In the meantime, the Ministry of Education must provide education to the pupils of that school, by allowing them instant pro-tempore access to another school. |
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| − | *## The Royal Educational Aims Council is a council under the Ministry of Education, consisting of three educational specialists who decide on the secondary education curriculum, and who can close a school (of any level) if it does not qualify with the requirements. |
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| − | *### The following three persons are members of the council: the Minister of Education, the Prime Minister, and the Minister of Labour as the pupils' and students' welfare watchdog. |
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| − | *### The Rector of Blackburn University is added to the council as its fourth member only when the council is looking into a matter directly concerned with the higher educational system. |
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| − | *# The Ministry of Education or States are allowed to create legislation concerning special needs education, and education in another language (special education). |
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| − | *## The same rules apply to special education as to regular institutions. |
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| − | *## Regular education must always remain available to pupils. |
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| − | *### All settlements with more than 5,000 inhabitants must have at least one regular primary school. |
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| − | *### A state must always have at least one regular primary school. |
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| − | *# All public primary schools within Lovia are publicly funded by the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *## No child or their family may pay to use the services of a public primary school. |
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| − | *## Currently, a primary school will receive $11,000 for every student regularly attending the primary school. |
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| − | *## If a primary school believes it requires more funding, it may apply for it to the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *### If the school disagrees with the ministry's decision, it may appeal it to a court. |
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| − | *## A primary school must be approved by qualified reviewers from the Ministry of Education every three years in order to receive funding. |
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| − | *## If an organization other than the Ministry of Education seeks to create schools that aim to receive public funding, they must be approved by the Ministry. |
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| − | *# Primary schools must register certain details in a primary school register. |
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| − | *## A primary school must register: |
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| − | *##* Their name. |
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| − | *##* The address of the school. |
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| − | *##* The number of pupils they are currently teaching a primary education to. |
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| − | *##* The number of teachers they are currently employing to teach primary education. |
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| − | *##* The date of registration. |
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| − | *## These registers are managed on a state by state basis by the relevant state government. |
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| − | *### Further details may be requested by the state government. |
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| − | *## The details must be renewed every half-year since the date of registration. |
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| − | *### If they are not renewed then the school shall be given a weeks grace period to fill in the details along with a notification from the state government, if it fails to renew details after the grace period then it is no longer considered able to provide education to students and must be shut down until it renews the details. In the meanwhile the Ministry of Education must provide education to the students of that school. |
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| − | *## Only primary schools that are registered in the primary school register may be considered primary schools by law. |
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| − | ===Secondary Education Act=== |
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| − | *# Secondary education is the educating of adolescents in a school or privately, by qualified teachers, in order to provide them with the apt knowledge and skills to lead a life in a modern society and in order to be able to continue studying in university or take on an apprenticeship. |
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| − | *## After having completed the schoolyear of their 16th birthday a child may choose to not continue ordinary school and instead pursue an apprenticeship, should they secure an apprenticeship then they may continue their education under their employer as an apprentice, if they at any point lose their apprenticeship they must at the soonest possible date rejoin a school. |
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| − | *# Secondary education is provided in high schools or secondary schools, unless the adolescent is taught privately. |
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| − | *## Secondary schools can be operated privately, that is by an individual or an organization, or publicly, that is by a neighborhood, hamlet, town, city, state or by the federal state. |
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| − | *## Secondary schools have to appoint teachers that are qualified to teach the subjects they are asked to teach. |
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| − | *### All secondary school teachers must have obtained a single Lovian Certificate of Education Level 4 or above or a Supplementary Lovian Certificate of Education Level 4 or above. |
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| − | *### All secondary school teachers must pass a set of examinations in their specialty, consisting of an oral and written component, created and managed by the [[Ministry of Education]]. |
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| − | *### All secondary school teachers must have obtained Qualified Teacher Status, which can be gained through completing an approved teacher training course, created and managed by the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *## Secondary schools can turn down pupils only in special cases, these being the inability to provide education to a pupil with a particular problem, the inability to properly provide education for a pupil due to a lack of resources or if a pupil has proven to be unable to behave according to previous schools' regulations. In no other cases, pupils shall be denied access without consultation with the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *# Secondary schools provide two tiers of education, one to a child from the year in which they turn 12 until the year in which they turn 16, and another to a child from the year in which they turn 17 until the year in which they turn 18. |
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| − | *## Secondary schools provide a general education to a child up until the age of 16. All subjects taught must be Lovian Certificates of Education and may not be Supplementary Lovian Certificate of Education. |
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| − | *### These subjects should be taught at least four hours per week, during the first four years of secondary education: |
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| − | *###* Mathematics (level 2) |
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| − | *### These subjects should be taught at least two hours per week, during the first four years of secondary education: |
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| − | *###* English (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Literature (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Art (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Physical Education (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Social Education (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Technology (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Science (level 2) |
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| − | *###* The school must also choose a level 2 language subject to provide other than English that must be taught at least two hours a week, from a list which the State Government will provide. |
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| − | *### These subjects should be taught at least one hour per week, during the first four years of secondary education: |
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| − | *###* History (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Geography (level 2) |
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| − | *###* Computing (level 2) |
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| − | *### Secondary schools may also provide more languages than the two mandatory subjects to pupils between the ages of 12 and 16. The specific additional languages a pupil is taught however will be selected by the pupil themselves from the list of additional languages the school provides beyond the two mandatory language subjects. |
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| − | *### Secondary schools are free to choose to provide more classes of any of these subjects, or to provide other level 2 subjects considered valuable, in order to provide a minimum of thirty hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. Secondary schools may provide more classes beyond the thirty hour minimum but none beyond the maximum of forty hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. |
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| − | *## Secondary schools provide an advanced education to a child of the age of 17 and 18. All subjects taught must be Lovian Certificates of Education and may not be Supplementary Lovian Certificate of Education. |
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| − | *### These subjects should be taught at least five hours per week, during the last two years of secondary education: |
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| − | *###* English (level 3) |
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| − | *###* Mathematics (level 3) |
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| − | *###* The school must also choose a level 3 language subject to provide other than English that must be taught at least five hours a week, from a list which the State Government will provide. |
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| − | *### Secondary schools must provide a wide selection of level 3 subjects for pupils to choose from to study. Pupils may choose to study a minimum of three extra subjects to study to bring their total time within school to 30 hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. Pupils may choose to study two more subjects beyond the thirty hour minimum, bringing their total time within school to 40 hours of class, every week of the schoolyear. |
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| − | *### Each additional subject a pupil chooses to study must be taught for five hours each week. |
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| − | *## Doctrinal classes may be provided in secondary schools by the school itself, if wished. |
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| − | *### There shall be no more than one hour of doctrinal class per week. |
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| − | *### The content of doctrinal classes, in which the teacher teaches a particular religious or political world view, can be chosen by the school and teacher. |
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| − | *#### There shall be no doctrinal classes about extremist views; that is: no far-right, far-left, extremist religious, violent or extreme nationalist views can be taught. If needed, the Royal Educational Aims Council and the Minister of Education can dismiss a doctrinal course. |
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| − | *### A student is allowed not to follow a doctrinal course provided by a secondary school, if he or she does not want to take this course. In order to skip these classes, the student has to notify the school direction and stay on school property during the courses. |
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| − | *### A student may not be forced to attend a religious school against their will. |
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| − | *### A course called 'Religions of the world', or any course similar to it, is not considered a doctrinal course. |
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| − | *### No tests and exams shall be taken for these courses. |
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| − | *# These rules apply for the arrangement of the timetable: |
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| − | *## A break of at least 10 minutes is compulsory between every two hours; more often is allowed. |
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| − | *## There shall be no classes on Sunday. |
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| − | *## There shall be no classes between 7 PM and 7 AM. |
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| − | *## There must be a lunch break every day, of at least an hour, between noon and 2 PM. |
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| − | *# Private education, by a qualified teacher, can be provided. In this case, the same rules apply. |
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| − | *## Private secondary schools must follow all non-financial regulations provided in this law. They may not charge more than $15,000 for tuition. |
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| − | *# Every child residing in Lovia has to receive at least four years of secondary education, beginning in the schoolyear after which the adolescent has finished his primary education successfully. Additionally should a child not be employed as an apprentice, they must continue to receive education until they have completed the educational year in which they are 18. |
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| − | *## Only if a qualified psychologist and the student's teacher find it appropriate for the student to skip a schoolyear and continue education with older students, and if the parents agree on this, the student may skip a schoolyear. |
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| − | *# Secondary schools that do not provide the kind of education described in this article, the Minister of Education or the Royal Educational Aims Council can decide to shut down the school until the service provided do qualify. In the meanwhile the Ministry of Education must provide education to the students of that school. |
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| − | *# The Ministry of Education and States are allowed to create legislation concerning special needs education, religious education, and education in another language (special education). |
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| − | *## The same rules apply to special education as to regular institutions. |
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| − | *## Regular education must always remain available to pupils. |
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| − | *### All settlements with more than 10,000 inhabitants must have at least one regular secondary school. |
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| − | *### A state must always have at least one regular secondary school. |
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| − | *# All public secondary schools within Lovia are publicly funded by the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *## No child or their family may pay to use the services of a public secondary school. |
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| − | *## Currently, a secondary school will receive $15,000 for every student regularly attending the secondary school. |
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| − | *## If a secondary school believes it requires more funding, it may apply for it to the Ministry of Education. |
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| − | *### If the school disagrees with the ministry's decision, it may appeal it to a court. |
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| − | *## A secondary school must be approved by qualified reviewers from the Ministry of Education every three years in order to receive funding. |
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| − | *## If an organization other than the Ministry of Education seeks to create schools that aim to receive public funding, they must be approved by the Ministry. |
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| − | *# Secondary schools must register certain details in a secondary school register. |
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| − | *## A secondary school must register: |
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| − | *##* Their name. |
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| − | *##* The address of the school. |
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| − | *##* The number of pupils they are currently teaching a secondary education to. |
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| − | *##* The number of teachers they are currently employing to teach secondary education. |
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| − | *##* The date of registration. |
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| − | *## These registers are managed on a state by state basis by the relevant state government. |
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| − | *### Further details may be requested by the state government. |
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| − | *## The details must be renewed every half-year since the date of registration. |
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| − | *### If they are not renewed then the school shall be given a weeks grace period to fill in the details along with a notification from the state government, if it fails to renew details after the grace period then it is no longer considered able to provide education to students and must be shut down until it renews the details. In the meanwhile the Ministry of Education must provide education to the students of that school. |
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| − | *## Only secondary schools that are registered in the secondary school register may be considered secondary schools by law. |
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| − | ===Voting=== |
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| − | {{voting}} |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:41, May 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 6 votes --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 00:26, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | * <s>'''Weak''' {{pro}} 15 votes --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 10:34, May 30, 2015 (UTC) I do not see a direct need for changing the voucher system, but the teacher qualification thing is a good thing.</s> |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes '''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 14:59, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] 01:00, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Contra==== |
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| − | * '''Strong''' {{Contra}} 7 votes [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 10:52, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | * {{contra}} 15 votes. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 10:54, May 30, 2015 (UTC) Kunar's right: ''No child or their family may pay to use the services of a <u>public</u> secondary school.'' |
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| − | *{{contra}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 14:02, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Abstain==== |
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| − | *{{Abstention}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 01:02, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *... |
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| − | Especially with topaz's abstention, this bill will not pass. :o <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 01:23, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | {{Declined}} Due to the failure of this bill, I will resign as Education Minister. --[[William Krosby]] 20:52, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Comments=== |
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| − | Need to read it first. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 06:15, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | This section contradicts itself: |
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| − | 6. Every child residing in Lovia has to receive six years of primary education, beginning in the schoolyear during which the child will reach the age of 6 years. ''That is, they start when they're five.'' |
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| − | #Only if a qualified psychologist and the pupil's teacher find it appropriate for the pupil to skip a schoolyear and continue education with older pupils, and if the parents agree on this, the pupil may skip a schoolyear. |
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| − | #Every pupil has to receive primary education until the schoolyear during which the pupil will reach the age of 12, except in the case mentioned above. ''They end when they're twelve, i.e. seven years after they start and not six.'' |
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| − | Also, you say that "there shall be no classes between 7 PM and 7 AM". Don't you think 7 PM is too late for school to end, and that 7 AM is too early for it to start? :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 13:57, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | @contradiction: I see your point, though there is ambiguity whether the 'schoolyear during which the pupil will reach the age of 12' is part of the primary education or not. @classes: personally yes, I think the limits are designed to be liberal though. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 14:23, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Interesting. I have changed it to be non-contradictory (I hope). <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 15:11, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | That's indeed better :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 18:28, May 29, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Let's see. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 10:28, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | So it is true, the segregation begins. This government is nothing but a sham. Under the voucher system any child may go to any school regardless of wealth and it was choice not necessity that governed the decision of which school they should go to. under the new system, rich and poor will become segregated. Those with money shall be able to afford to choose which school they go to while poor students will be forced to go to designated schools. |
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| − | Those who believe that education should be based around the need and choice of the student should not support this. |
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| − | I hope that Oos will change his vote and that no others will support this. CCPL particularly due to the issues this will cause for religious education in smaller and less wealthy communities. As I doubt the new state controlled school system that all poorer children will be forced to attend will allow religious education. Under the voucher system the government would have allowed them their choice but under this system if they are not wealthy enough they have no choice. |
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| − | I strongly oppose this ideological and negative attack based on nothing but hatred of private institutions. If people want qualified teachers I shall make a proposal below that they can support. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 10:49, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Not at all. ''Vouchers'' are the system that produce segregation, for reasons I am not interested in writing out again once more. Schools will include many choices to support the student, and the special education is included in this law. Competition has no place in education. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 14:19, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | On chat, Oos has said he wants money to go directly to pupils. This is essentially the case, where schools get funding based on how many students attend. Public schools can be managed by an organization other than the MoE, they just have to be inspected by the MoE. If a school elects to not receive government money, they can. But then students have to pay tuition. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 15:13, May 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 015. Government reshuffle == |
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| − | This needs to be passed. I propose the following: |
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| − | *PM: Oos Wes Ilava (filling vacancy) |
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| − | *Speaker: Neil Hardy (filling vacancy) |
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| − | *Minister of Labour: Lukas Hoffmann (filling vacancy) |
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| − | *Minister of Commerce: Charles Jones (filling vacancy) |
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| − | *Minister of Minorities: Bart Koenen (filling vacancy) |
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| − | *Minister of Transportation: Jonas Hrádske, could be replaced with another of Oos's chars (replacing Wrexley) |
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| − | *Minister of Family, Youth and Elderly: Mark Eastwood (replacing Sarah Lambert) |
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| − | *Minister of Culture: Dimitri Kalinnikov (replacing Aina Sarria) |
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| − | *Minister of Justice: Aina Sarria (moved from Culture to replace Al-Asmari) |
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| − | Notes: |
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| − | *Sarria has been given Justice, which she has previously shown interest in, to compensate for the loss of Culture. |
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| − | *The new entrants have 8 out of 20 ministries, which reflects the balance in congress reasonably well. They also have the PM position. |
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| − | *Potential problem: Happy does not have a ministry (edit: if you don't count Speaker, of course). However, he explicitly stated a month ago he did not want one and did not even give himself one in his own gov proposal. He did express interest in Tourism and Sport, but Topaz is doing something with that, so I oppose firing him. I hope this proposal won't get held up for that. |
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| − | *If additional problems appear, we can hold another more minor reshuffle later. |
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| − | ===Voting=== |
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| − | {{voting}} |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 2 votes ([[Peter Blanch]] and [[Marc Thomassen]]) --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 13:03, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 11 votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 13:06, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 13:12, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes... Sounds good --'''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 13:57, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 14:02, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 4 votes. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 17:49, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:21, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Contra==== |
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| − | *{{contra}} 3 votes (CPL.nm, Milivoy and MLPE) --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 13:03, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 2 votes (CPL.nm) <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:55, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ====Abstain==== |
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| − | *{{abstain}} 1 vote ([[AMWM]]) --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 13:03, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{abstain}} 8 votes (SLP) - retroactively get rid of Minorities. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:55, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | **I agree that Culture already covers Minorities, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a ministry to focus on the large and specific 'sub-issue' of Minorities. By that logic, we should abolish all ministries, because they all fall within the remit of Family, Youth and the Elderly. :o --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 15:09, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | {{Accepted}} By a 53% majority. It has been an honor to serve as speaker. --[[Isabella Munson]] 20:30, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Comments=== |
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| − | I would appreciate a ministry but it seems this is going to pass without so I don't have any real say on this matter. Is there absolutely nothing available? I saw I had Labour yesterday but that's changed. [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 15:31, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Possibly. What are your preferences? --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 15:47, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I hope you will vote {{pro}}, though, because I think that getting the new government in is a priority. I'll certainly support a small reshuffle later to get you a position. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 15:59, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::I'd appreciate Culture, Defence, Education, Foreign Affairs or Tourism and Sport. Most of the ones are from users that have more than one. [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 16:34, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I think I'll vote pro but I hope that my vote will be in the knowledge that I hope for a reshuffle after the State Elections in which Hoffmann can acquire a Ministry more suited to him and Happy can acquire a Ministry of his own. [[Lukas Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] [[File:LogoCNP2wt.png|20px|link=Conservative Nationalist Party]] <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 17:24, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :I saw you were quite interested in Speaker (you appointed Borja), if you'd like that role I'd be happy to exchange it for Culture. I appreciate your support. [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 17:29, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | (edc) Noted; I also support another reshuffle by the state elections at the very latest, ideally much sooner. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 17:30, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I think it should be as soon as possible, it's already June. [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 17:33, June 1, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 016. Research Funding Act == |
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| − | I am proposing a slightly modified form of the text currently in the First Chamber, having taken into account all issues raised. I'd also like to note my regret at the lack of even brief comment from many MOTCs, while thanking those who did take the time. --[[Peter Blanch]] 22:45, June 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Text=== |
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| − | #This act provides for government funding for scientific research in Lovia. Funding will be regulated by a central body, the [[Lovian Research Council]], which is funded by the federal government. |
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| − | ##The federal government will commit 3% of annual tax revenue to providing the Council with funds. |
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| − | ##The Council will provide records of expenditure to the Minister of Finance, who will audit them in consultation with the Minister of Science, to ensure the funding is wisely allocated. |
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| − | ###Ministers must carry out the audit in an entirely neutral way, to ensure the objectivity of all research is not threatened. |
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| − | ##If there are concerns regarding allocations of funding, Congress should vote on whether a recipient should lose funding. |
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| − | ###Prior to voting, independent advisors should be summoned to Congress to provide expert opinions to MOTCs on the issue. |
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| − | #The Council is composed of between 5 and 20 members. |
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| − | ##The Council is headed by a chief executive officer (CEO) appointed by the Minister of Science. |
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| − | ###The CEO should be a globally respected researcher in their field, with multiple publications in leading journals. |
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| − | ##A Chief Financial Officer (CFO) is also appointed by the Minister of Science. |
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| − | ##Between 5 and 20 other members should be appointed by the Minister and the CEO, in consultation with other council members. At least one member should be appointed with expertise in each of the following areas: |
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| − | ###biology, biochemistry and biotechnology |
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| − | ###engineering, physical sciences and mathematics |
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| − | ###medical research |
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| − | ###social sciences, arts and humanities |
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| − | ###environmental sciences |
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| − | #Both government-owned and privately-owned organizations may apply to the Council for funding. |
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| − | ##Applications should be sent to the CEO by the 31st of December of each year, in order to receive funding at the start of the financial year in April. |
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| − | ###Applications should specify the amount of funding required, the qualifications, experience and achievements of the applicants, and several supporting references. |
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| − | ##Funding to privately-owned organizations will be in the form of a purchase of a share in the organization and its profits. The share will be considered to be owned by the government, but administered by the Council. |
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| − | ##The following criteria should be considered before deciding to provide a grant: |
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| − | ###The quality of the research carried out in the past by the organization, in particular if previously funded by the Council |
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| − | ###The extent to which the research is unique, i.e. will provide significant new results compared to any other research funded by the Council or ongoing elsewhere in the world. |
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| − | ###The ethical implications of the research. |
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| − | ###The likelihood that the research will: |
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| − | ####improve the lives of Lovian citizens and humanity in general. |
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| − | ####provide a boost to the Lovian economy. |
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| − | ####generate revenue for federal or state governments. |
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| − | ####Research that is scientifically interesting, but does not meet some or all above criteria, may still be worthy of funding, in particular if it has failed to obtain non-Council funding for that reason. |
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| − | ###The amount of funding already obtained by the organization. |
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| − | ##Funding applications should be assessed by the Council members with the greatest relevant expertise, and the CFO. They will then recommend to the Council if the application should be accepted, and if so, how much funding the project should receive. |
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| − | ##The CFO will draw up a budget based on the recommendations of the Council members during the first three months of the year. The budget should be approved by the Council by majority voting; if not, it should be modified and reproposed. The budget should go into effect on April 1st. |
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| − | ##Research in all areas described in 2.3. should be funded. The Council should ensure breadth in the type of projects funded. |
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| − | #The council should devote part of its budget to funding 30 Council Scholarships for Lovian students to undertake Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) degrees. |
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| − | ##Each scholarship provides funding for three years, for both research costs and a living stipend. |
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| − | ##The Ph.D. will be accredited by Blackburn University. Students will be supervised by one or more senior researchers funded by the Council |
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| − | ##Organizations may also offer their own Ph.D. scholarships, using either their own or Council funding. In the latter case, this must be agreed with the Council. |
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| − | #The Council also has the following responsibilities: |
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| − | ##Providing advice to researchers. |
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| − | ##Organizing a conference every three months where researchers can present and discuss their research, and share their expertise with one another. |
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| − | ##Monitoring the spending of allocated grants. |
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| − | ##Arranging for researchers to share facilities, if appropriate. |
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| − | ===Voting=== |
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| − | {{Voting}} |
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| − | ====Pro==== |
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| − | *{{pro}} 1 vote. --[[Peter Blanch]] 22:45, June 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 22:49, June 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 23:00, June 6, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 14:37, June 10, 2015 (UTC) On the condition that the page [[Lovian Research Council]] is indeed created afterwards. |
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| − | **Thank you for the reminder. --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 10:23, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 16:46, June 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 11 votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 17:21, June 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 3 votes [[File:Flag of the Xanian Empire.svg|30px|border|link=http://xania-encyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Xania_Encyclopedia_Wiki|The Xania Encyclopedia Wiki]] [[User:Vivaporius|Vivaporius]]: <small>"[[User talk:Vivaporius|I don't need a slogan]]"</small> 21:45, June 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 4 votes. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 14:45, June 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes --'''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 15:02, June 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 15:11, June 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 15 votes --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 16:57, June 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | *{{abstain}} 0 votes <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 00:31, October 13, 2017 (UTC) |
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| + | @Oos: officially you have 15 votes, but Niels did say he wanted to transfer some of his 14 votes to you (he didn't specify how many, though). So, we currently have (at least) 45 votes in favour. @4kant: Yeah, you didn't run in the most recent federal elections (which were in March this year). [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 21:55, October 13, 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | {{accepted}} By a 64% majority - [[File:Flag of Lovia.png|20px]] [[User:Happy65|<font color=#101590>Neil Hardy</font>]] 15:12, June 12, 2015 (UTC)<br><br> |
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| − | + | :I guess that means 'cle Oos has 29 votes though :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:50, October 14, 2017 (UTC) |
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| + | ::''Some'' :P [[User:MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#009933">MyOwnBadSelf</span>]] <small>([[User_talk:MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#003399">talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/MyOwnBadSelf|<span style="color:#990033">stalk</span>]]) </small> 22:11, October 15, 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | :Why do you oppose it? Why don't you support it so research to complaining stones can be appropriately funded? :'( --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 14:48, June 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | :::"Some" people don't know the difference between "some" and "all" though :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 15:08, October 16, 2017 (UTC) |
| + | :::: :o Mayhaps I want ''all'' though :'( --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 15:26, October 16, 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | :::1. If so, why did early/mediaeval Christians practice maths and astronomy? Why not have Easter etc. on the same date every year so they didn't need it? 2. Quote the passage that says science is bad :P 3. Are all sciences bad according to you? :o --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 16:20, June 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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+ | :::::Perhaps you have 21 seats and Niels 8. Then we have 51 votes in favour, enough for the proposal to pass. :o [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 20:51, October 16, 2017 (UTC) |
| − | :::::You guys patronizing the Bible? :'( --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 09:40, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::You patronizing the Bible by saying untrue things about it? :'( --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 10:23, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::I think you just sadified God though :'( --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 10:26, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::Qrÿf likes his people to know the truth though, therefore science does not sadify him :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 11:16, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::Nuclear science* :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 11:20, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::: :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 11:57, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::::Nekrif nelikit nuklejari resjersia. :'( --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 15:40, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::::Neqrÿf neságo netakavíhki. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 18:17, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::::::Nedumum ke neklihef nenilhuk ke Nekrif nese netakaviki. :o --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 19:03, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::::::Nú neklýxem: nenovlétra'úrdubörjùnast neságo nekompléta :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 20:04, June 13, 2015 (UTC) <small>Yes, "not-new-letter-word-beginning" is a rather takavíhki way of saying "alliteration". Normally it'd be "àlliteràtsia" :P</small> |
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| − | :::::::::::::::This is a takaviki conversation for the Lovian Congress. :P --[[User:Semyon|Semyon]] 20:13, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::::::::::It seems to be have been invaded by the Burenian one. :o [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 21:34, June 13, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::::::::The Burenian government thinks this strategy works better than last year's :P --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 09:16, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 017. Eternal Leader Oos Wes Ilava == |
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| − | *Abolish Constitution, Federal Law, State Laws and any other law. |
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| − | *Give all power to Oos Wes Ilava, thus making his position as Eternal Leader ''de jure'' as well as ''de facto''. |
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| − | *Create a new constitution with the following text: 'All power and authority in the Kingdom of Lovia inheres to Eternal Leader Oos Wes Ilava.' |
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| − | *{{pro}} 1 vote. --[[Marc Thomassen]] 12:19, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 14 votes. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 12:47, June 14, 2015 (UTC) :o (CCPL - RTP - OSB) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 4 votes. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 12:37, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 1 vote. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 12:48, June 14, 2015 (UTC) (LF) |
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| − | *{{contra}} 7 votes, for some reason, part of this doesn't quite make me feel comfortable... <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 12:52, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *:You attractive :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 13:01, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 11 votes. [[User:Horton11|<small>HORTON11</small>]]: [[File:Email_icon.jpg|25px|link=User_talk:horton11|Inbox]] • [[File:follow_me.PNG|35px|link=Special:Contributions/horton11|Follow me!]] 13:46, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Contra}} 7 votes. :P [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 03:49, June 15, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{abstain}} 10 votes, cuz he ain't socialist enough. :'( <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 12:56, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *:Cuz a socialist never gets things done like 'cle Oos do :o --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 13:01, June 14, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 018. IWO Membership for Juliana == |
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| − | This is a vote on whether Juliana ([http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/ link]) should be allowed to join the IWO. |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 03:02, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 5 votes. [[User:Traspes|Traspes]] - [http://wikijuliana.wikia.com/wiki/Dianna_Bartol Dianna Bartol] [[File:LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK.png|19px]] |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:23, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 08:35, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. I don't know why we didn't do this earlier to be honest, the current system of admitting new IWO members is inefficient and takaviki... we need IWO reform --'''[[User:Frijoles333|Frijoles333]]''' [[User talk:Frijoles333|TALK]] 09:29, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 12:51, June 25, 2015 (UTC) Under the condition that the image on the main page is updated to reflect the current situation that the nation is no longer located on actual existing land. |
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| − | *{{Pro}} 4 votes. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 13:04, June 25, 2015 (UTC) I agree with Frijoles and Bart. |
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| − | {{Accepted}} By a 55% majority. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 13:35, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == 019. High-speed track from Connection Bridge to Newhaven == |
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| − | This vote is all about the creation of a new high-speed railroad track from the [[Connection Bridge]] to [[Newhaven]] to cut travel time between NC en Newhaven and make our railroad system efficient. This 37 km track will cost us L$3.340.000.000, which we can easily pay for by 25% National Government, 25% railway companies, 25% private investments, and 25% Kings and Sylvania state governments and environmental organizations. This means we get to spend about $L830.000.000 ourselves. |
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| − | *{{pro}} 15 votes. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|O<u>u</u>WTB]] 08:23, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 4 votes. --[[User:4kant,6|Qytokant]]<sup>[[User talk:4kant,6|FRÅGOR???]]</sup> 14:34, June 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes. [[User:Bart K|Bart K]] ([[User talk:Bart K|talk]]) 17:25, June 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 10 votes, but we should go back to the old system of making money come out of thin air, since we don't have an established economy yet and it would make sense for things to be retroactive, etc. So in this case I'm just going to pretend all the cost figures mean nothing and instead we just create the high-speed track without worrying about cost. <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 17:59, June 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::No because then people like you can promise the world and not worry about the realities of delivering it. <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 18:12, June 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | *{{pro}} 7 votes - Under the understanding that the first wave of spending will be the federal government, the second wave will be the state governments, the third will be the railway companies and the last will be the investors. This way the federal government which already has incomes sorted can get things started, the state governments of Sylvania and Kings can sort out their incomes. Once half the work is done railway companies will have no problem putting their money where their mouth is and private investors will follow shortly. <small>[[User:Kunarian|Kunarian]]</small>'''[[User talk:Kunarian|TALK]]''' 18:12, June 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | Ok :o {{Accepted}} <small>—[[User:TimeMaster|TimeMaster]] ([[User talk:TimeMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|contribs]])</small> 21:23, October 16, 2017 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 21:23, 16 October 2017
In Lovia, Congress is the national legislative body and the most powerful branch of government. The Second Chamber is one of the two chambers of Congress, located in the Capitol in Downtown Noble City, in which the Members of the Congress vote bills that originated in the First Chamber. Paradoxically, Lovia does not have a bicameral parliament: there is only one group of MOTCs that both debates and votes the proposals. For the current composition of Congress, see this.
Whereas all national citizens may propose bills in the First Chamber, only Members of the Congress may vote them in the Second Chamber. Article 6 of the Constitution states that "all Members of the Congress are expected to vote on the motion in the Second Chamber". When amending Federal Law they have three legal voting options (two of which are countable): "pro (in favor of the motion), contra (in opposition to the motion) and abstention (the wish not to vote and the uncountable option)." Further more, they "have two weeks’ time to cast their vote in the Second Chamber." When it comes to amending the Constitution however all three voting options are considered valid and voting may both be closed earlier if the required majority is reached and extended by the proposer.
A normal majority ("more than fifty percent of the countable votes") is required to pass a motion amending the Federal Law. To vote on Constitutional amendments, a special majority ("more than two thirds of the valid votes") is required to pass a amendment. The special majority requirement was lowered from three quarters to two thirds in the 2010 State Reform (Sixth Amendment). All proposals approved by Congress, by the required majority and in due time, must be implemented by the government of Lovia.
001. Government formation
Because we've had numerous discussions about this since the election, but never really concluded with an agreement, let's simply put the most popular option to a vote: a CCPL-GP-MCP coalition government, with Oos Wes Ilava as prime minister and other ministries to be determined later. 77topaz (talk) 04:17, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
Voting
Pro
Pro 22 votes. 77topaz (talk) 04:17, October 12, 2017 (UTC)- Pro 8 votes. MyOwnBadSelf (talk · stalk) 06:50, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
Pro ? votes :o --OuWTB 13:05, October 13, 2017 (UTC)- Pro 0 votes I suspect :o --QytokantFRÅGOR??? 16:04, October 13, 2017 (UTC)
Contra
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Abstain
- Abstention 0 votes —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:31, October 13, 2017 (UTC)
Comments
@Oos: officially you have 15 votes, but Niels did say he wanted to transfer some of his 14 votes to you (he didn't specify how many, though). So, we currently have (at least) 45 votes in favour. @4kant: Yeah, you didn't run in the most recent federal elections (which were in March this year). 77topaz (talk) 21:55, October 13, 2017 (UTC)
- I guess that means 'cle Oos has 29 votes though :o --OuWTB 08:50, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
- Some :P MyOwnBadSelf (talk · stalk) 22:11, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
Ok :o 
This proposal is accepted! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:23, October 16, 2017 (UTC)